The truth behind elogs.

Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by Liam123, Jul 16, 2017.

  1. KillingTime

    KillingTime Road Train Member

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    Lol. Maybe the OP loves George Noory?

    To follow are some strong opinions re: e-logs & the system of pay, the two relative to each other where it concerns all the complaints.

    Frankly what I see is a bunch of guys who are upset that they can't work more than 70hrs in 8 days, cooking the books to make ends meet.
    The cpm model is so antiquated, and it allows for there to be periods of free labor from the drivers (think: How hard do you have to fight for detention? And after how long does that kick in? Wheels aren't turning, guess who's babysitting a truck for $0.00...).... let's fix that ####ing thing. The industry goes hourly w. OT either after the 8th hr in the day or the 40th in the week (dependant upon State law). No more cpm; no more 'by the load' - straight hourly, read off the e-log @ the end of the week.

    I pull down in 55 (hourly) what many of the company guys do in their 70.

    I have no knock against e-logs. But I refuse to work for free. Time is my most valuable asset; it's short and it won't be wasted by Truck Company X, Y, Z. Instead, it'll be fairly compensated - all of it.

    That's why I can't read these e-log gripes... The complainers just want more time to do stuff they're not getting paid for so that they might have time to get the wheels moving to actually get paid.

    We should be paid for everything we do where it concerns spending time in & around the truck: pre-trip to post. To think otherwise, I feel, is a cheat toward your own bank account and a complete devaluation of your time.

    I'm certain this brings up a slew of other problems, clock-milkers and monitoring them being the most outstanding. But they can be dealt with on a comparison model - it takes KT 8 hours to do his slip-seaters 9.5 hr job, why?..... Well, KT has the benefit of running at night - less traffic, fewer hold ups at the onload / offload site and if we look at his GPS, it appears as if he's driving like a bat straight out of hell. Did he break the governor? Lol. 1.5 hr difference justified.
    But say the e-log GPS shows Driver X sitting at the Shell station 1/5th of a mile from the offload site for 2.5 hrs 'on-duty' ensuring he's going to get his 12 hr day... yeah, he's going to have a problem if he didn't report a breakdown.

    Just an example of the new trials we'd all have to complain about if the model changed...

    Pardon the long, moderately disorganized nature of this speil.
     
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  3. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    What? Do you seriously think if the OTR truckload industry went all hourly, that would somehow lead to more gross pay paid to the same drivers over the course of a year?

    I'll wait for your answer before continuing.
     
  4. Timin770

    Timin770 Road Train Member

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    "ELDs have been forced onto us because we are as an industry too lazy to get rid of the bad drivers and ensure most run professional so we have to live with it."

    Make the bad drivers use eld. Print a line on the back of their CDL that says "ELD Required". We do something similar if a driver needs eyeglasses, why not ELD?
     
  5. DL550CAT

    DL550CAT Road Train Member

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    I agree with the first thought but not the second. Elogs do not make a bad driver good. Some drivers just can't!!
    We do need to a better job of policing our own. anymore a lot of driver don't run with the radio on if they have one. If they do have it on and you were to verbally correct them, on say speeding in the wrong lane through a tight construction zone, all you would get is drive your own #%*&$@ truck.
     
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