the unnecessary usage of j-brakes, why????

Discussion in 'Questions To Truckers From The General Public' started by ivanhoe, Jan 12, 2006.

  1. 3.14

    3.14 Road Train Member

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    if you're not up before 0800, those loud jakes are like an alarm clock. you're supposed to be up cooking breakfast, getting ready for work, and/or getting your kids ready for school. it's even better when somebody rolls through with umuffled straight pipes and has those jakes ripping. there's nothing like loud, unmuffled jake brakes in the mornin'! i'm going to keep doing it just because. feel free to show me i'm #1.
     
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  3. IraqVetTX

    IraqVetTX Light Load Member

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    I have millionare neighbors, they hate hearing my truck start let alone jake. why dont people throw fits about loud rice burners? or harleys? or old sh!tboxes? I guess only jakes are annoying....
     
  4. Lil'Devil

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    People do throw fits about loud cars, when I was a kid my brother and I had a really loud Mustangs and the people who lived up the road would always complain about our loud cars racing up and down the road.


    Anyway there is no reason why anybody needs to use jakes in residential areas at all, they are meant to be used on hills, not going through town.
     
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  5. brsims

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    Heck, my neighbors raise hell if I don't bark the jakes when I'm home. But I agree, jakes in a residential area are kinda rude. Especially early in the morning. I ain't much of a morning person, and hate being awakened by loud jakes in the truckstop.
     
  6. poppy

    poppy "I Love that Cushaw Pie"

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    yeah, and them #### garbage trucks.:biggrin_25510:
     
  7. Ike

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    Apparently you've never driven in any residential areas in W.Va or PA. one perticular town in PA (Pt. Marion on rt. 119) is built on a steep grade. Morgantown, W.Va also comes to mind. You will use your jake.

    I agree there are plenty of flatland areas where the Jake is not neccesary, but there are a lot where it is, for the safety of all. :biggrin_25525:
     
  8. grimesjm1

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    I love seeing the "NO JAKE BRAKE" signs out in the middle of nowhere. If you look around, you'll see an expensive home in that area just about everytime. I assume the house is owned by some self-righteous person who thinks he's above everyone else. My only complaint going by these peoples house is that my jakes aren't loud enough in these newer trucks!
     
  9. 3.14

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    the hill along that one highway off of i-5 in tacoma and leading to the 167. that hill was there long before those stupid apartments. i'll happily use the jake brake down that hill regardless of the fact that there's a sign stating that jake brake usage is prohibited.
     
  10. phroziac

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    I live almost a mile from "Red Arrow Highway" now, so I don't get this anymore, but when I used to leave on a road directly behind it, I'd go and sit outside and talk on my cell phone and all of a sudden youd hear the jakes come on...lol. It's not even close to a hill. It's like people just do it to be obnoxious intentionally. Infact, when i go through there, im using the throttle... weird... :)

    If you're wondering, thats the road that if you take US12 westbound into michigan, and get to New Buffalo where you have to turn right to say on US12, if you keep going straight thats Red Arrow....it does some funky things (ends at m63 junction with no signs telling how to get to the other part of it, for example!) but for the most part it changes names to Michigan Ave and goes all the way to Canada..lol..

    I love that. It's one thing when theres a complaint like mine above ^^ Infact, its not even a complaint. I'm not going to go get an ordinance passed because im special. However, it is kind of annoying when you're talking to someone and that happens...and its not even a big hill or anything.

    There's a grade in new mexico somewhere on the indian reservation i believe...it's a big enough grade to downshift a gear and use the jake, and theres a sign like that, and like two houses near the freeway. That's just WRONG. A big grade is NOT the place to ban jakes.

    There's a few BIG grades in pennsylvania, I'm talking about 10% grades for atleast one mile, with no jakes signs. Come ON. One in particular is very curvy and has a 25 mph speed limit for trucks, 2 lane road, no passing zone for the whole grade, haha, you should see the four wheelers gettin pissed.... It's only a mile or two, but it must be annoying for the cars. I run that one with no jakes because the speed limit is so low that i dont really need them.

    Atleast pennsylvania properly signs such things. Like, theres a few grades on state roads where seemingly for no reason, there is a big sign at the top that says "Truck speed limit 25 MPH", then you get to the bottom and realize it's because the road heads into a little town with a 25 mph speed limit...and they know you ain't gonna be able to slow down to 25 if you fly down that hill at 55... :D

    But to put a house up 500 feet from a major interstate highway, or interstate-like highway, on a huge grade, and demand that no one uses their jakes, what the hell. There's a time and a place for jake brakes, and that is EXACTLY the time and place for them, but they tell you not to... And last i checked, highways are very noisy regardless.

    I dont run the west anymore, but I do the same thing on big hills.


    I remember a while back I was at the TA in pembroke, and a large car with huge straight pipes was pulling out of the fuel island, jammed 4 gears just to pull up, and used his jake brake to shift. What a friggin ######. I was walking inside and it was loud enough to give me a headache.
     
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  11. Infosaur

    Infosaur Road Train Member

    Q: Why use jakes in a residential neighborhood?

    1.) So you can hear me comming, over whatever you're listening to on your iPod
    2.) The fraction of a second from lifting off the gas to hitting the brake could be the 10' between you calling me an #######, and running you over because 'I thought I could beat the truck officer'
    3.) kids are stupid, (I know from personal experience, I used to be one) they think the street is an extension of their yard.

    If I feel the conditions are too tight, I'll use the jake.
    Besides, on my truck you hardly hear it, it's a non-moded 07 Int. The motor pings pretty badly so it probably sounds louder pulling than it does jaking.
     
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