Tire Pressures

Discussion in 'Car Hauler and Auto Carrier Trucking Forum' started by nascarchuck, Feb 22, 2013.

  1. sxdime

    sxdime Medium Load Member

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    I am curious as to why you have 275/70r 22.5 on that truck anyways? That tire will turn faster and create more heat and also wear faster. With no headrack there to me is no reason to have the smaller tires on it. I have seen a many of those tires go boom! Yes it was on stinger rigs but still.
     
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  3. WRIGHTRACING

    WRIGHTRACING Heavy Load Member

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    http://www.bridgestonetrucktires.com/us_eng/truck_radials/index_2.asp

    I checked the link I posted above and it doesn't go to the page for the tire. So this link does work. Look up the tire from here and it shows you max weight and tire PSI. Doesn't show different weights and tire PSI's, but I would assume considering they're steer tires...they're always gonna carry close to the same amount of weight on them.
     
  4. mnmover

    mnmover Road Train Member

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    The tires should be inflated to the recommended psi, but on your truck, I would say 100 is plenty as the steering axle doesn't carry 13000lbs. Tires are basically just a contanier for air, and the proper air pressure will help them last longer. Some recommend higher pressures to decrease rolling resistance, the trick is to watch how they wear. You might try rolling the steer tires over a small layer of sand and see how much of a footprint the tire makes.
     
  5. nascarchuck

    nascarchuck Road Train Member

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    I googled "Proper Tire Inflation" and here are the first 3 links that appeaered. They all agree with my opinion on proper tire inflation.

    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=147

    Check and Adjust First Thing In The Morning. Set according to the vehicle manufacturer's cold tire pressure(s) recommended on the vehicle's tire placard or in its owner's manual. This must be done before rising ambient temperatures, the sun's radiant heat or even driving short distances temporarily warms the tires.

    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=8

    The pounds per square inch (psi) pressure number branded on the tire's sidewall identifies the maximum cold inflation pressure that specific tire is rated to hold. However, the tire's maximum pressure is not necessarily the correct pressure for every vehicle upon which the tire can be used (almost all vehicle manufacturers' recommended tire inflation pressures are less than the tires' maximum pressure).

    Therefore when checking and adjusting tire inflation pressures, the "right" inflation pressures are those provided by the vehicle manufacturer, not the "maximum" inflation pressure branded on the tire's sidewall. The vehicle manufacturer's pressure recommendation can be found on the vehicle's tire information placard label, as well as in the vehicle owner's manual.



    http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/tiresafety/ridesonit/brochure.html

    Tire information placards and vehicle certification labels contain information on tires and load limits. These labels indicate the vehicle manufacturer's information including:

    • Recommended tire size

    • Recommended tire inflation pressure

    • Vehicle capacity weight (VCW–the maximum occupant and cargo weight a vehicle is designed to carry)

    • Front and rear gross axle weight ratings (GAWR– the maximum weight the axle systems are designed to carry).


    Both placards and certification labels are permanently attached to the vehicle door edge, door post, glove-box door, or inside of the trunk lid. You can also find the recommended tire pressure and load limit for your vehicle in the vehicle owner's manual.


    http://www.drivers.com/article/354/

    In fact, tire pressure usually lowers itself in winter and raises itself in summer-it requires no action on the part of the motorist apart from keeping the pressure at the level recommended on the sticker that is usually located just inside the door, glove box, or fuel door. Under normal loads, inflate tires according to the vehicle manufacturer's recommendations, NOT the maximum pressure listed on the sidewall. In any case, one should never exceed this maximum pressure.
     
  6. nascarchuck

    nascarchuck Road Train Member

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    I have no clue. This is a company truck. They are the ones that ordered the truck like that. I have no idea why.
     
  7. Pullin2

    Pullin2 Crusty Canuck

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    sxdime makes a good point. If it's a company truck, maybe they're just used to ordering that size of a steer tire. Is your whole fleet like that ? Or do you have stingers and/or tractors with head racks ?
     
  8. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    yeah, like the tire manufacturer or the vehicle manufacturer know what the other recommend.

    http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,128198,00.html

    or did people forget about that little fiasco?



    ETA:

    The best way I have found to properly inflate a tire for the correct pressure/load...

    Chalk test.


    draw a line with a paint stick or chalk across the face of the tire.

    Drive about 100 feet.

    Look at your mark.

    If the outside is gone, you are under-inflated.

    If the middle is gone, you are over-inflated

    If the mark is totally gone, you are properly inflated.
     
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  9. nascarchuck

    nascarchuck Road Train Member

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    As far as company trucks go, we have about 85 or 90 trucks (and about 70 or so O/O). Seven (I think) are fifth wheel 4 car rigs and the others are all stinger trucks with overhead racks.

    Like you said, Im sure that the company is just used to ordering these tires.
     
  10. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    As an owner operator I would follow the data plate from the truck manufacturer. After all they are familiar and tested the vehicles characteristics. A company driver follow company instructions if it isn't unsafe.

    That doesn't mean you are goofing up if you follow the tire manufacturers stamp. Like others said that lists max pressure.

    More and more companies are increasing tire pressures to reduce rolling resistance and increase fuel mileage. With today's diesel prices it more than compensates the added tire wear. I wouldn't go over 120 psi myself. 130 psi seems a bit much.
     
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  11. KANSAS TRANSIT

    KANSAS TRANSIT Road Train Member

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    This is ONLY a guess, but I would say they may have just ordered it that way because that is what all there other trucks run, while I do agree that in your case the taller 22.5 would be better, I have to admit that I like having as many things identical on my trucks as possible.

    It makes things simpler, keeps costs down, carry less inventory, and is just simpler for the office to track, rather than a bunch of trucks with all different size tires.

    With that being said, we only run 22.5/70's on two trailers, I can tell you we have more bent rims on those two trailers than my other 7 combined, watch out for big potholes, you don't have much cushion there.

    We run 100 in our steers, BUT our front axle is always between 10,400 and 10,800 our 5th's are fixed and the KP is only 6" forward of axle CL, some our only change is fuel level.

    BTW Chuck, how is she doing on MPG?
     
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