Tire/Wheel Thread

lets see you admit there are problems with recaps, and bangdad's claim of no cords showing when a recap blows are false.

 

Did Bandag actually ever claim this? I've never seen it in writing. I think all Bandag might have said was that if you see a gator on the road with cords in it, it isn't the cap that failed, it's the casing. JFaulk has said repeatedly that there aren't problems with recaps IF the casings that have been capped are in good shape. That's been my experience too. If you cap a junk casing with a new cap, you're still going to have a junk casing. There's no end to the analogies that could be used here, but expecting a bad casing to perform well when capped would be like expecting rotten eggs to taste good when you put enough cheese on them.

 

Your severely confused. I said when the farmers tire blew there were cords showing, actually the casing came totally apart, BECAUSE THE CASING WAS JUNK! Like I said repeatedly, the casing FAILED inspection and should not have been capped. The cheap shop capped it anyway and in turn IT FAILED. I have read the post(s) many times and have yet to see how you can take it any other way.

If you don't like recaps fine, buy all the virgin tires you wish. But to spread this dumb truck driver ballpark facts about how all caps are junk is ignorant.

Who here has actually been to a tire shop and watched them recap tires? I've watched them do it from start to finish and if you have also you'd know why Bandag makes that claim. The actual tread they apply to the casing contains no steel cords . So when they say the pieces of tire you see laying on the road that have cords was not the cap is usually true. Cause and effect. I know that's against everything you've heard on the CB radio and like to preach online but it's true.

 

Now what is a Fisher Price plastic aero truck. Now do your homework before you respond

 

Cascadia, Century, Columbia, Volvo VN, T2000, ProStar ect. Basically any truck that has plastic skirting with the engine crammed completely under the windshield.

The only reason I don't put trucks like the T600 or T660 in that class is because the cab is still riveted aluminum, (not fiberglass like the junk T2000) and it doesn't take an hour to find the valve cover. Plastic bottles may last 200yrs in a landfill, but they don't last long on the hwy!

Look at it this way. There are no shortage of 20-25 year old (and older) W900's or 379's or even FL Classics still running around in great shape. How many believe that they will ever see a 25yr old Cascadia still working?

 

Now see I told you to do your homework before you respond
In case you didnt know Volvo cabs are steel not fiberglass or riveted recycled beer cans. And when it comes to paying for fuel I'll take a 7mpg truck over a 5mpg truck anyday

 

Looks to me like he said the T2000 was fiberglass, not the Volvo. I'll take my 6.7mpg brick I can work on over a 7mpg aero any day.

 

I know Volvo's are steel.......apparently Volvo has never heard of this new metal they just discovered in 1825 called ALUMINUM!
I just had 2 trucks, one a W900 and the other a T800 following each other both pulling grain hoppers loaded to 80k. The '04 T800 with a C13 got ~7.5 and the '00 W900 with a C12 got ~7 mpg. The only reason the W900 got less mileage is because it's geared too low. (3:90's on 22.5 super singles and the T800 has 3:70's)

I guess if they were driving Volvo's they would have gotten 9mpg huh?

If you like your Volvo/Cascadia ect fine, great for you! It's the blanket statements like "you can't make any money with XXXX truck" that is total BS. I mean honestly does anyone ACTUALLY believe the truck pulling a Cat D8 dozer on a RGN is going to see any measurable benefit from a rounded hood? Seriously? It's not the "heavy brick" on the trailer that's killing your fuel mileage, it's those pesky external air cleaners!

It's not the truck that kills your fuel mileage, 9 times out of 10 it's the driver!

 

Ever hear of aerodynamic drag If you dont think it play a role in fuel mileage you might want to call them researchers at

the Lawrence Livermore National Lab, the U.S. Air Force and the NASA Ames Research Center and maybe you can explain to them why trucks burn so much fuel and they can quit wasting their time with that areo stuff
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Ok, I'll explain this to you again. Aerodynamic drag does play a role BUT IT'S NOT THE ONLY FACTOR!!! And most of the time it's not the BIGGEST factor. The driver is the biggest factor.

The fuel mileage difference between a W900 and a aero truck pulling a RGN is not going to be measurable. The shape of the hood is trivial. That's why blanket statements like I stated earlier are ignorant. Will a T660 with a stand up sleeper do better pulling a van than a flat top 379? Probably! Will a moron driving an aero truck do better than an O/O who's right foot is connected to his brain through his wallet do better with the 379? Yes!