To 2014....and BEYOND!!!!

That is perfectly inline with the btu content of ng

 

It was a nice truck and that was what he said it cost. He said the tanks cost 30,000 each. Still a lot of extra money for a truck that's going to cost more to operate.

 

Soon I am sure they will have off road LNG and the high taxed on road LNG. I just don't see how this will all make any since at all. I know a bunch of food delivery trucks here in NH that run off LNG, and they run Chevy 454 motors that run of LNG. Talked to a guy this morning and they have 23 trucks that run off LNG and have been buying them for over 10 years BUT they are starting to switch back over to diesel. They said money is getting tight and the money they are saving with the LNG trucks is so little that it isn't worth the hassle...

Why not say you have to meet current ter 4 or get 10+ miles to the gallon average on every OTR road. I am sure engine manufacturer could come up with a 10+ motor with out a problem if it didnt have all the EGR, ect.

 

I farm. What subsidy? The only subsidy I know of is regarding grain prices, and there has not been a grain subsidy paid out in over a decade to anyone. It is based on a floor price for grain. Grain prices have been above the base price for over a decade.

Regarding the Farm Bill..... 80% of the farm bill is just for Food Stamps.... a welfare program. That leaves 20% to be spread out amongst all the other stuff the Dept of Ag does. And farming itself is just a small portion of what the Dept of Ag concerns itself with. They are responsible for the entire food inspection for the entire U.S. Packing plants, produce processing facilities, import/export inspections, and the list goes on and on. And the 20% has to take care of all the budget for that stuff and all the other overhead they are tasked with. Sure, a portion may go to land set aside crop reduction programs (CRP), but that is only a drop in the bucket. Some of the money for that also comes from government conservation projects. And if you think that $125-$150 an acre per year in CRP payment is real money compared to actually raising a crop on that acre, you are dreaming. Especially when corn is trading over $8 a bushel, soybeans over $15 a bushel. Compare a 200 bushel take of corn on that acre of ground compared to the pittance the government is paying for CRP.

You need to have a chat with a local Farm Bureau and check all this out for yourself.

 

Crop insurance is a subsidy, conservation is to, there are more, but you probably already know that. But all that was is an after thought anyway. The point I was trying to make is farmers get things the rest of us don't, they have a different set of rules when it comes to taxes.

 

Not sure where you have gotten your information, for one crop insurance is part of the public sector, farmers have to pay for it no differently than any other insurance. Conservation would be the payment for the non use of the land, therefore this would be the only income being made, you cannot farm land that is enrolled in a conservation program, it one or the other. Taxes are based on gross income, no different than truck drivers that are paid untaxed adjustments, it gets taxed based on the amount shown at the end of the year.

 

So apples to apples, same spec trucks. How much more if you go with LNG ?

 

You better do your homework a little better. Yes crop insurance is obtained thru private insurance company's, 16 of them in fact. These 16 insurance company's receive federal subsidies for their administrative costs and insurance risks. Because of the government's large subsidies for insurance premiums, farmers only pay about 1/3 the full cost of their insurance policy's. As far as coservation is concerned, you are partly right, but there are more conservation programs then what you pointed out. For example, The Conservation Security Program, added in 2002. As far as taxes are concerned, go to the IRS's web site and see all the differences between farming and trucking.But I'll give you one, a farmer can use a different depreciation table than what we can.