Trainer vs No Trainer

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Mike_NC, Jul 22, 2010.

  1. Deserted1

    Deserted1 Medium Load Member

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    I love how 99% of the responses are we are unsafe newbies who are "supertruckers". Is that all you have get a new response already...

    Now onto my response to all this need a trainer dribble.

    I also am a W/S driver, and I can say I was worried when I started, but its trial by fire, and I don't mean crash, you are taught how to drive hills, how to handle adverse weather, how to chain, how to secure your loads, how to determine your tandem distance and weights. This company will not release you into the wild unless they feel confident that you are not going to destroy their truck and endanger others, if they get the slightest hint that this may happen your on the first bus back home.

    Most of the stuff you learn when starting is pretty common knowledge, yet you see many companies who have training programs (Werner, swift, covenant, May) who do stupid things like flash while passing at night, stay parked at the pump while they go shower, triple park the scale because that one spot in the back is too far for them to walk into the country pride all you can eat fat guy special.

    What does a trainer get you most of the time, it gets you all his bad habits. Once in a while you will see a trainer who cares about the fact your driving the same roads his family is on, thats whats needed. But what makes me any less qualified to do this job than you? Everyone starts somewhere, I just chose the route where I am not baby sat from a jump seat for 6 weeks.

    I am learning every day, just as every one of you including the 60 year old veteran, the day you say you have learned everything is the day your in the ditch. I have family that has been trucking for well over 50 years I talk to them daily about things I see, hell I even call for advise at times when I feel there might be a better option, its nice to have this resource but I dont see him as a trainer, just a good trucker whos put his time in and has seen a few things.

    I speak to other drivers all the time, I look young for my age so when most ask how long I have been doing this and I respond with 3-4 months they almost instantly get that I am better than you and you will fail attitude. I feel bad for them because I would love to hear their stories and talk tech with them, but they shut down and scowl...

    Now waiting for the "oh great another super trucker response..."
     
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  3. badcompany

    badcompany Heavy Load Member

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    oh great another supertrucker:biggrin_25525:
     
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  4. tallcountry

    tallcountry Light Load Member

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    OK so lets see im a new driver to be. i was reading this post and there are a lot of things here that scare me to death. I will be starting with a company and will be driving with a trainer for 4 to 6 weeks and i am required to log at a min of 200 hours. Now here is what really scares me is that these people think that a driving a truck is a way to pull a pay check every week. Out of all the guys that i have read posted here on the new drivers thread not many of them have asked or even thought about the 80000 lbs of distruction and possible death that they are getting behind the wheel of every day. Now im not a young pup by no means im middle aged and have been threw the ups and downs life brings along and i understand that when you change careers you move to the trainee postion and you need to understand that thats not a bad thing but as a trainee you are responsable for the training that you receive and if its not where you feel comfortable with you need to speak up and do the right thing and inform your company and let them deal with it. I for one am not interested in being with a person that only wants me in the cab to do night driving for them so they can be paid for the extra miles i drive for him that week and the 7 cents a mile he makes for sleeping while im driving. Yes i understand there aregood and bad trainers but then there are the guys that are just there for the money and they are the ones that need to be moved out of the training postion. As far as if a person needs to go with a trainer or not I THINK EVERY NEW CDL DRIVER NEEDS TO BE WITH A TRAINER FOR SOME LENGHT OF TIME. I understand that there are people that grasp and understand things quicker than other people and my not need to be with a trainer as long as others but some of these companys are just using the training as a way to keep the goverment out of there house. To all you experienced drivers i hope to see you all on the roads here in the near future and hope that i can perform to the standards. To the newbies here like me read learn and lose the chip on your shoulder because if you dont you might just get someone besides yourself hurt.
     
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  5. phroziac

    phroziac Road Train Member

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    Thanks for proving that you are too ignorant to waste my time talking to.

    I was just sayin that i switched jobs and had to go to training again. it was no big deal. Sorry you're too ignorant to comprehend the simplest of sentences.
     
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  6. Kansas

    Kansas Road Train Member

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    Mine didn't, and is/was considered one of the best schools in the country. They forgot to tell me a whole bunch of other relevant stuff too. And then... There was the trainer that showered every two weeks even if he didnt need it. I liked him too, NOT!

    Easiest way to spot a "noob" in the trucking world is to listen to them marvel about how good their trainer or instructor was lol.
     
  7. phroziac

    phroziac Road Train Member

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    Mine didnt show me how to slide tandems. My first load after training was 45000 LOL

    Now i dont have tandems to slide! Yay!


    i bet OP doesnt know what the cali bridge law is. Hmm.
     
  8. Deserted1

    Deserted1 Medium Load Member

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    I bet he does, considering we both got the same training info and I know #### well what it is....

    Lets see here, CA Bridge law, kingpin to center of rearmost axle in which heres
    California, 40' Kingpin to Center of rear axle... yea you can give me more states I know em all bud. but I guess I needed a trainer for 6 weeks to be taught all that right? What else ya got.
     
  9. Mike_NC

    Mike_NC Medium Load Member

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    Ya'll are too schabby too hang with the real deal, now there ya have it....... Come get some! Lol. I will school every one of ya'll. I am the man and ya'll are sheep in a herd.
     
  10. Warpdrvr

    Warpdrvr Heavy Load Member

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    DUDE!! Don't let all our secrets out...LOL

    But let 'em boo and hiss, while we're going down the pass with them, we'll be the ones that can actually control our vehicles
     
  11. TheHealthyDriver

    TheHealthyDriver Heavy Load Member

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    That is one of the most asinine comments I've read on this forum.
     
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