Travel INTO Canada

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Hanadarko, Jul 25, 2012.

  1. Hanadarko

    Hanadarko Independent Owner/Operator

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    I'm looking at taking some freight on recurring runs up into Canada and returning empty.

    I am starting to read up on the permits required (like Ontario's CVOR) and restrictions.
    My rig has a 266" WB but it is older than a 2003, so the WB is grandfathered in - at least for now.
    I already had my passport, TWIC as well as my FAST cards, so I think I'm good there.

    But, I am looking for someone on here that has (or still does) run into Canada that can help point me in the right direction.
    Even a recommendation to a permit company that "does it all" would be fine too.

    The few permit companies I called either gave me whishy-washy answers or were juggling 2-3 calls at the same time as mine.
    OOIDA wasn't much help, which was actually surprising to me.

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  3. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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  4. FLATBED

    FLATBED Road Train Member

    The wheelbase restrictions in Ontario is being revised ( longer ) to allow for APU's , Livingston is 1 of the better brokerages and good service
     
  5. Hanadarko

    Hanadarko Independent Owner/Operator

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    Well...I dont think they dont seem to do permits?? - I dont need a broker per se, but i need someone to help me with the paperwork and permits.
     
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  6. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    I'm looking for the same info. Run northeast a lot and want the flexibility of getting some of those good rates going in and out of Canada.
     
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  7. Hanadarko

    Hanadarko Independent Owner/Operator

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    You bet!

    So far, here is what I have learned...costs may vary based on doing it yourself vs a permit company:

    -Ontario requires:
    IRP/IFTA
    CVOR: $250/yr - takes 15 days to process

    -Quebec requires the following:
    IRP/IFTA
    Safety permit form
    NI # (no idea what that is)
    Power of Atty from someone with a Quebec mailing address

    -SASKATCHEWAN
    Nothing required beyond IRP/IFTA

    So far, doing the math...to get setup for Ontario and Quebec is close to $1k out of pocket.
    Naturally that can be made up on the many loads up to there. Just expect to come back deadhead.
    There is virtually #### coming back out of there...
    But at the high rates, you can easily afford to do that.

    Oh...then there is a PARS (pre-arrival-review system) and PAPS (Pre-arrival Processing System). One is for import to CA and one is if your hauling export.
    Many guys wont or cant deal with these regulations...but I think its worth some investigation.

    We also seem to need a 4 digit Canada code:
    http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/services/carrier-transporteur/codes-eng.html

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    Last edited: Jul 25, 2012
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  8. FLATBED

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  9. newskate

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    dont you need a scac number?
     
  10. Hanadarko

    Hanadarko Independent Owner/Operator

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    I believe so. I have an SCAC number already though...
     
  11. newskate

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    what did the scac number cost?
     
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