Trump Tariffs

Trump is screwing his own people to , the problem is most Americans are too dumb to see it . they all think he’s sticking it to us, not realizing they will also feel the pain from his tariffs

 

I think you have to look further back and see what Trudeau did for you all. Has to start somewhere. Just saying…..

 

“Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.”

 

Definitely could increase our cost of living. Will be tough on people carrying debt

 

Tit for tat and politics aside, as I just edited my post to reflect that my intention was for a discussion on the freight markets. While they have been improving slowly MoM, I think this is going to create some major head winds and put alot of smaller outfits under, greater so than the usual freight cycles (obviously), but even worse so in the very unusual freight cycle that has developed since the pandemic. One that allowed for a surge in freight markets and a larger demand greater than usual freight cycles, followed by the slump in demand and saturation in supply that we've been dealing with for the past 2 years in the general freight markets (niche aside, localize construction aside).

But we haven't fully emerged from that over extended demand to over extended supply wave, although 2025 was supposed to be the tail end of it before we could expect to see more stablized freight market cycles return, this is going to put a disruption to those predictions. I think this will create an even tighter supply market this year as outfits fall and supply rapidly deterioriates, leading to a mid 2026 becoming a cycle of over-demand once again.

So short term pain, followed by short term gain, and then another 2 years off cooling off. I think we will see some stabliziation come late 2028 - but alot can happen until then.

My 2 cents

 

Exactly the canadian freight market hasnt even rebound since covid and now we have this tariff bs to deal with . I think we’re in for some really bad times , way worse than what we’re dealing with now . Especially if this drags on for months and months . maybe some drivers even being laid off and it’s tough now trying to get hired by companies with loads of experience. especially if like me you do general freight, ie dry van and reefer where there’s a ton of competition with all these small brampton carriers racing to the bottom with they cheap rates . I also heard trump will be going after steel,Aluminum even copper so the flat bed guys who travel to the states will be screwed too .

 

Well, the ***** tariffs will most likely cause a steep decline in cross-border trucking, no question about it. The supposed reasons for those tariffs with Mexico and Canada are that BOTH countries are "doing nothing to stop illegal aliens and fentanyl from crossing the border", both of which seem to be more of a "Mexico problem", not so much a "Canada problem", so that's not the REAL reason for the Canada tariffs. Whether the Canada tariffs remain depends on on the outcome of an event which will happen in Canada sometime between now and October 25, maybe sooner.

In the long term, if stopping illegal immigration (what little there is) and fentanyl smuggling is strictly enforced, expect MASSIVE delays exiting Canada in the future. Whatever path ends up being taken, it looks like those who do cross-border transport will be severely affected.

 

As a nation we have become to reliant on foreign products.

American products get taxed up the wazoo in foreign lands.

Tariffs might hurt but it also will allow American companies profit margins to start production here.
For that to happen we need to build our economy on sound ground.

I’m all for it to tax foreign goods the same percentage other countries tax American goods.

 

Well, I would argue that it has rebounded, but you had such a crazy amount of "foreign students" coming it, that you now have an insane amount of over capacity.
I live by Detroit and by looking at truck drivers passing by, sometimes it feels that we border India and not Canada

P. S. I go to Toronto to hangout once or twice a year and sometimes when I have guests from overseas, I take them to Niagara Falls.
Before I would hit traffic only near Toronto, now it seems like traffic starts in London. The population growth in Ontario during last 5 years feels insane. Oh and driving culture has become weird too. Everyone occupies two left lanes for miles, while the right lane stays completely open. Then the whole thing about being stuck behind speed limited trucks. Last summer I drove to Quebec City and multiple times I spent over 20 minutes behind trucks racing each other. What a crazy mess.

 

Good point, just as I spoke to many yesterday about this however, I think its bigger than just America bringing back jobs and producing American made products. The logistics of workers wanting to work for lower wages is probably the bigger issues. With inflation increasing and overall costs increasing wages need to be relevant therefore it becomes a snowball affect when a Nation brings back work that was made in another country at a lessor cost. Those manufacturers and larger companies that left the Usa in the 1st place went to another country like Canada or Mexico because it was more cost effective.
When those companies/manufacturers are forced back into the Usa not at a lower cost but base cost of operations the pricing and cost efficiency changes and the customer will still pay more. Trying to avoid this either way by importing products with 25% tariffs costs consumer eirher way only causing inflation.