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  1. DDlighttruck

    DDlighttruck Road Train Member

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    If I delivered in the morning (after sleeping two hours away) I should've had a fresh log with a PT, then two hours drive time. Which would've started my 14. Receiver takes break at 1000, dinner break at 1200. Then shipping has there own schedule. It's a big time waster. Yes, he will go take break if there's 6 skids left to go.

    Yes, I could've started a new log before I left the shipper.

    The other way that I'm trying, is there is a rest area 10 minutes from town. Slept there, showed up to deliver. Now I just have yesterday's log to finish, and I can just log a 15 minute unload/PT and start a new day.

    Either way I'm struggling to always have a current log on me in case of a stop or random scale.

    It's only once or twice a month that I'm in need of a few extra hours. I'm finding Winter driving throws any trip-planning out the window, and makes the record keeping harder.

    My trucks governed. How do I trip plan for accidents and winter driving? I can't just hammer down
     
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  3. DDlighttruck

    DDlighttruck Road Train Member

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    Good advice. Thank you
     
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    I ran 2 books back in the day. You will not benefit from it. Nowdays,forget it.
     
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  5. DDlighttruck

    DDlighttruck Road Train Member

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    I helped the State Troopers change a flat tire for a four wheeler before I left this morn.

    Would an outlaw trucker do that? :p
     
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    Lower your avg. Mph that you use. I'm governed at 68 so when I trip plan I plan on a 60 mph avg. Then I add an hour to my Eta for s and giggles. In the winter or going through big cities I lower my average down to 55 mph. California I lower it down to 50 mph. Works for me.
     
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    If you aren't concerned about the prison sentence if you have a bad accident and get caught with false logs then here's one way to do it.

    Log legal at the start of the day. Don't claim you took 15 minutes for tarping. Write it so it's believeable. At end of your 14 rip page out and write it the same as it was but start time and end time are now earlier. There, fresh day. If you work hard, rip out your last trip where you started and ended from the yard and write off duty, the boss had someone else driving your truck for that time.

    If questioned at a scale, don't give him any fuel receipts that don't show the same date and certainly no toll receipts. He probably won't ask unless you cross his scale and physically are falling asleep and it is obvious. Then he is going to get you. He could call the shipper to see when you were there. He could call cbsa or cbp and they can tell when your license plate entered the country. He could call your fuel card company to see when you were where you claimed you were there. Now, none of that he is likely to do unless he sees you in a condition where he feels you may fall asleep at the wheel. Some overzealous dot officers will do all that anyway, so you are taking a gamble. If you are audited they will catch you then and the fines will make you think they are trying to make you pay the national debt. If you hurt or kill someone, even if someone has a heart attack and rams your truck and dies totally not your fault, they will dig it all up and you are going to prison.

    Now realize the risk versus the reward. We will all be electronic soon anyway. I know there's times when you are just plain screwed. We've all been there and many of us have figured out a way to fool the man at the scale. Trust me when I say plan your trips better, don't make a habit of doing this, and if you have customers or dispatch whoever pushing you, tell them "look, it is x hours from pickup to delivery, I didn't start my day at the pickup location, that means I am required to take these breaks. This is the approximate # of hours you should expect a truck to be at a receiver after it leaves the shipper". You'd be surprised how many people say oh OK we will plan the appointment times like this then. And if they don't like it, don't haul for them again. If it's your company tell them they keep it up you'll find a new company. YOU will pay the price when caught.

    Kapisch?
     
  8. pattyj

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    why do u have to be so respectful you're taking the fun out of lecturing you,lol.What you should do is call the customer and ask if there's overnight trk parking or somewhere close.I think you have to have a full 8 hrs in the sleeper.if you can park on the street next to customer take a full 8 hrs in sleeper then to line 1.once they start on your trailer go to line 4.I have always logged only 15 minutes for loading and unloading then go to line1.never have I been questioned by the dot or my company.
     
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  9. gokiddogo

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    You can do 15 min for load or unload, if questioned the shipper or receiver made you stand in waiting room. Playing cards with other drivers, I think that counts as off duty. Or you went to sleep and they brought you the bills when done. I think that's sleeper. Many times that's the truth anyway.
     
  10. MACK E-6

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    It will not make your life easier.

    Read this.

    http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...hreads/paperless-logs.11176/page-2#post-75146

    Granted, it's from 10 years ago, but the point is no less valid. The story posted therein is the worst case of what can potentially happen when you cheat on logs.

    As others have stated, there are a myriad of ways of tracking a driver, not the least of which at this point is now cell phone records.

    Log it legal. End of story. :cool:
     
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  11. pattyj

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    I agree,if anything I would think it'll make your life a lot harder then what it has to be.always worrying about your logs matching and stressing over the DOT
     
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