Two logs. How to?

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  1. thejackal

    thejackal Road Train Member

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    Yup the days of two logbooks are long gone...LONG GONE.
     
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    In addition to auditable time stamps crossing scales or toll booths, your Comdata transactions also can be audited for time and place. While paper logs can be wonderful coloring books, you aren't allowed to color anything outside the lines.

    Another thing to be VERY careful about, at NO time can a driver have two logbooks. If you make a "mistake" and need to remake a day's log be sure to destroy the first log.
     
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    This thread needs to be deleted
     
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    Trip planning is an art. Time management is the toughest thing to learn. ELOGS isn't for safety, it's to dumb things down so that people who cannot figure things out time management and the regs can still hold down a job. It's not about safety, it's about cheap labor.
    You asked how to run 2 logbooks every day all week. Thats like trying to balance your bank account with 2 completely different sets of numbers. You're only going to get into trouble. 1 logbook and knowledge of the regs will take you just as far.

    How do you plan for a slow shipper/receiver? You shut down at midnight, 2 hours away. 10 off puts you rolling at 1000. You get there at lunch, and you're looking at getting EMPTY at 5pm.Workable...not ideal, but still workable.
    If you park a mile or less away, you're at the receiver, and would have that fresh 14.
     
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    His name is Jose.
     
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    That's actually very good advice.

    Thank you!
     
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    ^^^^^^
    @DDlighttruck, do you know the difference between falsifying your logs and not being current on your log?
     
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    For short time I ran paper logs
    I used an app keeptruckin
    I could edit logs with touch of a button. Not two logs but I was able to like smd is talking about I believe
     
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    I should have clarified, perhaps. If you get pulled in at a scale, or pulled over, you have to show last 7 days. That's the hard part, is having the last 7 match today. It's easy to back up one day once a month, but it messes up the last day and the next day sometimes.

    Trip planning is my weakest area. I can admit that.

    This drop is tricky because you're not allowed in town limits at certain times. There was a city kitty parked right by the one road into town when I pulled in.
     
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    Once ELD's are mandatory for O/O's, it won't be more than a few months before some enterprising soul will start selling a software hack to "ghost" the ECM. And we're back to where we are now.

    With the license plate readers at various points, credit card transactions, cell phone tracking, the constraints are pretty tight. Knowing the rules, knowing where, when and how you are tracked, you better be on your game if you want to push. The split sleeper is one of our best tools, and I am surprised how few drivers know even vaguely how it works.

    We schedule all our runs legally, but weather, accidents, and breakdowns can mess up the best laid plans. And I've never been able to convince a driver to shut down at 8 pm on a Friday night, an hour from home, with no POE's left....... Some of them appear to drive really, really fast the last four hours.........
     
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