Union OTR drivers

UPS Freight(LTL, former Overnight), yes. UPS Freight TRUCKLOAD, no.

 

So the Roadway driver who runs from Akron to Chicago, lays over 10 hours, then runs from Chicago to St. Louis, then lays over again and runs from St. Louis to Memphis, etc. isn't over the road?

LTL has nothing to do with whether or not the operation is over the road.... Jevic was LTL... New Century does a lot of LTL... I've done lots of LTL for Mercer Transportation. My son's two trucks run truckload and LTL freight from Michigan to the east coast and back.

There are time-tested terms used in this business to define the kind of operation a trucking company is involved in... it behooves everyone to know them and use them properly.

 

are you talking the old overnite special service division ? those drivers are ussually team and run on dedicated accounts . they make good money , but there chicago Rail services( truckload ) division is 710 .

 

I'm talking about the Advance Auto trucks and HD trucks that say "UPS Freight Truckload" on the sleepers. The former WDS part of UPS.

 

roadway linehaul ( terminal to terminal ) is Otr as you spend the night away from your domicile , like when I worked for CF I would run to memphis from chicago , spend the night in a hotel , then the next day I was off to dallas , spend the night , then , back to Kc or memphis , then home . or went to memphis , and worked 2 days out of that terminal doing 250 turns . but if your home every night then no thats regional/local .

all ltl stands for is "Less then Load" , in other words the customer doesn't have the freight to make a complete trailer load, so they pack several customers freight on one truck to fill it out and by doing so they split the costs instead of paying for a 45k rate when at cf there was often 100+ customers freight on a single pup . when I hauled a compartment tank I would take these as you would take one product to one customer , then another to the next , sometimes one shipper ,others two , sometimes we would combine loads to make a good paying trip as I would get paid for 2 loads instead of one and only dirty one trailer inthe process .and often the rates where not based on 45K minimums so the customer saved some money in shipping costs which would often guarentee work . and then I could load out the compartments for a backhaul .

 

Yourga Trucking out of Pennsylvania is union. I also thought Nic Strimbu was also union but I am not sure.

 

I guess it depends how you look at it.. We're considered the LTL segment of the industry so we're considered LTL companies I suppose - UPSF, YRC, Estes, etc.. Companies like NC or the former Jevic did do LTL but it was not a large cross-dock or hub/spoke operation like we do - it was normally one pick with a few drops or two picks and two drops..

What Yellow drivers do I've always known as running the system - Old Dominion and Estes call it running wild - all terminal to terminal but not knowing where you'll end up.. The YRC line-haul drivers I've known were always on a set run for the most part - might run Harrisburg to Chicago to Columbus and back to Harrisburg but they knew that was their run..

I think a lot of it depends on regional/company/local terminology.. Fair enough??

 

No need for unions in OTR.
So many are happy working for .25 cpm.

 

Just a clarification here---been a loooooooong time since I was a teamster-and I'm not sure was memphis under midwest master freight? or southeast--Either way--I was long gone when they pushed 3sleeps thru southeast master and they were the first to fall--that was 82or83?(don't quote me)and find it hard to believe midwestmaster ever did? Just wondering. I know when big R went back (yes they had em in the 50's early60's)to sleeper teams--the eliminated all the 3 sleep provisions--it was eithe layover home-or linehaul--end @home domicile? I know today it has all changed so I'm just wondering? yeah I know I'm Old LOL

 

You might be older but I love hearing from you LTL hands that were at it before I was born..

I grew up in Erie, Pa and a neighbor of my parents was a CF driver way back - he has pictures of an old truck/trailer combo that was used on I90 in Pa that was used back then since Pa did not allow doubles but Oh and the NY Thruway did.. He does not hold it against me that I work for Con-way either..lol..

All I know about lay-downs working here is either something went horribly wrong or I was asked to bypass the meet and run straight through ..