Upgrading the Windows Operating System and existing programs, like CoPilot Truck
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Thankyou, it was 11. It has been 3 years since I gave it away to some one in Jonesport. He was using version 7 and was thinking of upgrading. After he put it in it made it so he couldnt go back to the previous working version 7. He too knows my aggravation.
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This is incorrect. I literally just finished building this computer I am posting from, an hour, or two ago. I installed Windows 7 over Win XP, Win 7 reserved and transferred all of my Win XP files to "Old Windows Files" folder.
Where are my files and folders after upgrading from Windows XP or Windows Vista?
If you recently upgraded your computer to Windows 7 from a previous version of Windows, and you're having trouble finding the files from your previous version of Windows, you might still be able to access your old files depending on how you upgraded your computer.
Where are my files after upgrading?
It depends on the way you upgraded your computer to Windows 7. Use the following table to determine where your files might be.
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[TH="class: headerEntry"] If you upgraded from[/TH]
[TH="class: headerEntry"] And you chose this option during installation[/TH]
[TH="class: headerEntry"] Then your files are[/TH]
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[TD="class: entry"] Windows Vista[/TD]
[TD="class: entry"] Upgrade[/TD]
[TD="class: entry"] In the same general locations that they were before you upgraded.[/TD]
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[TD="class: entry"] Windows XP or Windows Vista[/TD]
[TD="class: entry"] Custom, without reformatting your drive or partition[/TD]
[TD="class: entry"] Stored in a folder called Windows.old. To learn how to access files in the Windows.old folder, see the "How do I retrieve files from the Windows.old folder?" section below.[/TD]
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[TD="class: entry"] Windows XP or Windows Vista[/TD]
[TD="class: entry"] Custom, and you reformatted your drive or partition[/TD]
[TD="class: entry"] Deleted. When you reformat a drive or partition, all the information is deleted and can't be recovered.[/TD]
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How do I retrieve files from the Windows.old folder?
If you upgraded your computer from Windows XP or Windows Vista and didn't reformat your hard drive during installation, you should be able to retrieve your files from the Windows.old folder.
- Click the Start button
, and then click Computer.
- Double-click the drive that Windows is installed on (typically, the C: drive).
- Double-click the Windows.old folder.
- Double-click the Users folder.
- Double-click your user name.
- Open the folders that contain the files you want to retrieve. For example, to retrieve files in the Documents folder, double-click Documents.
- Copy and paste the files that you want from each folder to a folder in Windows 7.
For example, if you want to retrieve everything from the Documents folder, copy all the files and folders, and then paste them into the Documents library in Windows 7. - Repeat steps 5-7 for each user account on your computer.
- We recommend that you back up your files to an external location before upgrading your computer, especially if you have encrypted files on your computer. For more information, see Back up your files.
- Once you're sure you have everything you need from the Windows.old folder, you can delete it to reclaim space on your computer. For more information, see How do I remove the Windows.old folder?
Where do I find common folders in Windows 7?
- Click the Start button
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Version 11 was painful for several reasons. It was "clunky" from a coding standpoint. Meaning that it was slow on good machines and dog-slow on budget computers because it sucked up a lot of memory (ram) and 50 - 80% processor usage while running.
Also, it supported ONLY the following list of what they call "native resolutions" on your computer. The supported resolutions of CPT-11 were:
800 x 600
1024 x 600
1024 x 768
1152 x 648
1280 x 720
1280 x 800
1280 x 960
1280 x 1024
1360 x 768
1600 x 1200
1680 x 1050
SO this caused the issue you first mentioned about having to run it at 800px in your post. What that means is that none of the native resolutions available on your laptop were IN the above list EXCEPT 800px. There was a manual fix you could do to force it into a "Windowed" mode in the config file. So it would have run in one of the above-sized windows on your computer, but there is no way you could have known about that without help from a support guy at that time who knew it.
Ver 11 was the last version ever sold as a "boxed" unit in truck stops. It came with its own USB proprietary receiver antenna that did NOT work with other programs and did NOT work with the newer version of CoPilot when it came out. They have since gone to a software-only sales model and do not sell the boxed method on that last two versions to come out.
For those reasons, you (and any users who had one of the above scenarios) were rightfully angry with version 11. -
Actually I was referring to Windows 8 in the post. But regardless, your scenario with Windows 7 does what Microsoft calls a "custom" install and not an "upgrade." Only an "upgrade" keeps your installed programs in place and ready to run afterwards without re-installing them.
Installing Win 7 or Windows 8 on a machine with Win XP indeed makes an "Windows.old" folder that contains the folder/files from XP (if you did not do a clean install.) But you still have to re-install the other programs that you had on Windows XP after installing Windows 7 to use them. For example, if you had MS Streets program running on XP and you did the Win 7 or a Win 8 install like you did, MS Streets is not there to run. You have to re-install it. The folder that the individual MS Streets program files were in is there in your "Windows.old" folder, but the program will not run from there on your new Win 7 installation. It would have to be re-installed on your Windows 7 to actually use it. Files yes, runnable programs, no.
However, since it won't let me edit the original post post, I'll put the links here to make it clearer based on the Windows 7 and Windows 8 upgrade path charts from Microsoft. Because there are so many scenarios, they made some pretty good charts on what keeps and what doesn't.
Upgrading to Windows 7 paths.
Installing or upgrading to Windows 8 paths.
The two most general statements that can be made are:
(1) back up any personal files first to cloud storage or a flash drive, etc. BEFORE attempting to change the operating system REGARDLESS of how Microsoft says it is supposed to go.
(2) if you have a program with an active product key that you can deactivate yourself (like CoPilot) then open and deactivate it first.Last edited: Apr 3, 2014
Alaska76 Thanks this. -
Well I screwed that up. For whatever reason when I read it, it registered in the reverse of what you said, sorry about that! Hopefully what I posted will be of use to someone, at least.
Dieselboss Thanks this. -
Isn't life, ( Microsoft ) funny? Now they issue an update on something that has worked great for years, for MILLIONS of people. My "experience"...was just fine...but some pin-headed college boy decided to improve the function that was not broken.. Where, oh where, has the common sense gone???
I know...shut up.heyns57 Thanks this. -
i never do upgrades, have never seen any good.
you wouldn't build a new house on a used foundation. why would you install a new windows on a used windows. that's probably messed up.
clean installs is the only way to go. and you can do that with the upgrades. works better, and faster, and doesn't take as much as time as actually loading and upgrading.
you already have a previous copy of windows. don't waste your time in actually loading it up first, then upgrading. just throw the upgrade in. when it asks for a previous version. throw the old one in, then the upgrade back in. and finish a clean install.
BUT, since your going to spend the money anyways. you can buy system builder instead of retail. a full blown installation for the same price as an upgrade. do a google for system builder windows.
i also never do the updates. they usually screw up the system in that it takes longer to boot up and be functional. i'll wait for the service packs instead.
as for backing up your files. windows comes with backup. and usb external hard drives are cheap.
no need to tearing down your computer to take to bestbuy or whatever for transfer.Dieselboss Thanks this. -
I'm with you 100%. Things always seem to get glitchy on "upgrade" versions. That is why Microsoft either discourages, or outright prohibits in-place upgrades these days for all but very similar versions. Best way is to do a clean install, but that requires that the user has their other program install media and their personal files backed up. If a guy doesn't have a lot of 3rd party stuff then it is pretty painless. But if he does, it can get hairy getting it all back on depending on what it is.
These days it is much easier to preserve your 3rd party stuff with backup systems like Carbonite and so many free cloud backup options. Not to mention very big flash drives at low prices.
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