1. Army91W

    Army91W Heavy Load Member

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    Hamboner I've been waiting for the link to the article about the US consuming less fuel.
     
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  3. hamboner

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    You ask and you shall receive! There are many out there my friend! You honestly think we consume more oil with all the fuel efficient engines and technology we have today? Hell... cars and trucks are half the size they were 10-20 years ago! Its not domestic supply/demand driving prices... its the world consumer driving prices! We have countries like China and India that had never hardly seen vehicles in parts of those countries 20 years ago with cars everywhere now! U.S. sent all our manufacturing to these countries and now they have a thriving middle class that can afford cars!

    http://politicalcalculations.blogspot.com/2010/06/us-per-capita-oil-consumption-plummets.html
     
  4. Army91W

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    I didn't read anything that says the US uses less fuel. Less gallons per person I read but the population has grown also. The baby boomers had kids.
     
  5. hamboner

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    What is your point? You clearly have a point to argue, so say what your thinking! Don't sit here and sputter where's your link? Wheres your link??? Sorry, but I'm not the #### library of congress! You obviously have problems with reading comprehension, or you just choose to argue opinion to no end! I could care less!
     
  6. Typhoid36

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    If you're going to present something as fact then you need a citation. Also, I would give the forum rules another read if I were you.
     
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    Army91W Heavy Load Member

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    I just called you on your bs and like a good liberal with PMSNBC talking points you got mad. No where on the article you gave does it say the US uses less total fuel. Good try!
     
  8. CenutryClass

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    what has this thread degenerated into? liberal vs. conservative bs?
     
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  9. Army91W

    Army91W Heavy Load Member

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    Fact vs fiction?
     
  10. ACH1130

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    i agree, it was made to talk about UPS not all this politics, make another thread for that
     
  11. XkorpseX

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    I have been working my way up over at ups, to a tractor trailer division. It works like this

    It is a union company, so they do not hire from the outside. I have 3 years tractor trailer driving experience, and they hire their non cdl drivers first to learn to drive their doubles and triples, before they hire someone who has 10 or 20 years of driving experience. you go to ups, your driving experience means NOTHING. In fact, if you go the ups route, plan on shelving your cdl for at least 8 - 20 years.....and I am not exaggerating those numbers. to get truck job, it works like this. You have to start out in the warhouse hub, as a part time package handler which starts you out in between 8 - 9 an hour. 25 hours a week maxium. then, if you stick through with that for at least a year or two, you can move up to a full time package handler position, which is just 2 part time positions put together...but your hours cap off at like 35 a week. after 2 long years of this, you will be making maybe 10 - 11 an hour. at this point, you can put your name on a LOOOONNNGGG list, of people waiting to get into the driver position. not tractor trailer, but the box car driver. and from what I have researched across the usa, this wait is universal....you are looking at waiting close to a total of 5 - 7 years, just to get into driving box car. that position starts around 14 - 16 an hour with annual raises. then, after being with the company for several years, and you are driving box cars, things are going well, and they like you, they allow you to put your name on ANOTHER LONG LIST of people, waiting to get into tractor trailer division, or the "FEEDER" position. That position starts right around 30 an hour, and I have talked to guys who have been feeder drivers for 20 years, and the cap out around 42 an hour. I have also talked to muiltiple feeder drivers, who said from the time they started at ups as a package handler, till the time they got into feeders it took between 10 and 22 years, depending where in the country you are. up to 22 years! the only reason anyone quits ups feeders is if they retire and thats it. ups is a life long commitment. its the first choice for the individual who does not choose college. so unless you are young, and you have the time, you might want to pass ups up. like for me, I am almost 30, and I am not looking to get back into a tractor trailer with ups till I am close to 45. good luck with that one.
     
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