UPS Freight Basic Questions for 2019

Discussion in 'LTL and Local Delivery Trucking Forum' started by Northeasterner, Jul 2, 2019.

  1. McUzi

    McUzi Heavy Load Member

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    They do have OTR drivers at UPSF as dedicated account drivers, but my understanding is that they are non union and get no where near the typical UPS payscales.
     
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  2. Northeasterner

    Northeasterner Light Load Member

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    Aaha you're talking about the non-union "truckload" drivers who get a "painscale" of 40cpm or some junk like that?!?

    It gets confusing because package has feeder tractor-trailer drivers, there's cartage which handles airport I think?!? there are us union upsfreight linehaul & p&d local drivers and then there are the non-union truckload guys...
     
  3. McUzi

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    My understanding of the driver structures, in no particular order:

    UPS (Package)
    • RCPD Package Driver - Union
    • 22.4 Combo Driver - Union
    • Air Driver (Different type of package) - Union
    • Feeder Driver - Union
    • Feeder Team Driver - Union
    UPS Freight
    • City Driver - Union
    • Road Driver - Union
    • OTR Van/Flatbed/Team w/Hazmat or w/o - Non union
    The Freight division is not as handsomely paid or given as lush of benefits as package, but from I can tell hires all drivers permanently. The OTR jobs are non union and from what I've always known had pay that was dependent upon the dedicated account their run on, and hard to even determine that since it's not codified in a contract.
     
  4. Northeasterner

    Northeasterner Light Load Member

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    Our top rate at UPSF doing P&D is something like $28.65, whereas package car guys make $39 an hour I'm told. So that's true. Apparently the reasoning is that a dozen or two LTL freight pallets per-day isn't as much of a money-maker as a hundred or two small packages per-day, which is why we're paid less.
     
  5. Russian Rabbit

    Russian Rabbit Road Train Member

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    i think top rate should be $29.05.
     
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  6. McUzi

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    I think the real reasoning is that UPSF is no where near as large of an operation as UPS is, therefore a much smaller amount of employees and an even smaller amount of engaged union employees, which wouldn't matter anyway because as evidenced by the most recent contract drama, UPS was fully ready to let them walk from the get go.

    Palletized LTL pound for pound is likely more profitable, especially when you factor that 100% of the operation isn't done with airplanes and space in an airport, but the volume compared to package is nonexistent.
     
  7. KullenTrucking

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  8. KullenTrucking

    KullenTrucking Bobtail Member

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    if you don’t mind me asking, how is FedEx structured?
     
  9. jnye34

    jnye34 Bobtail Member

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    Does anyone know if UPS is hiring teams in the Cincinnati area, I checked the website and the jobs listed are the normal seasonal stuff.
     
  10. KullenTrucking

    KullenTrucking Bobtail Member

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    Question for you guys that drive in the northern half of the country: how much does business slow down during the winter ( i.e. heavy snowfalls, ice storms). Does it affect your pay at all?
     
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