Starting rate is low for what the job entails. They are baving a hard time filling jobs because of it.
However, with top pay being what it is, im not sure why there would be a strike either, unless it had to do with the pension or health benefits. If ups either wanted to reduce the pension or require employees to cover a large share of health benefit cost, then I could see a strike. Bit if theyre playing ball and are also willing to give a pay raise, even if its not as big as what the union wants, then a strike would be out of line, IMO.
This is part of the problem with unions. On one hand, theyre good. Then on the other, they get too greedy and are bad. Plus, you never know if the high-ranking union leaders are on the up and up.
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If you haven't heard by now, then you likely will Tuesday. i believe we will be voting whether to strike.
i do want a new suburban, but that's not why i'm asking.Bob Dobalina Thanks this. -
Actually on second thought i DON'T want a new suburban; i just saw an escalade (which is basically a suburban with a fancy grill) on the turnpike today towing, or trying to tow a 16' enclosed trailer. While the bumper wasn't scraping the pavement, it sure was sagging bad.
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Grounds are that UPS is H'sing around. i haven't really analyzed the situation to comment one way or the other.
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Well, if you really want to know:
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Meanwhile i continue to collect $1200-$1600 per week checks pretty much listening to podcasts, music and eating.
This is not even at top rate yet.coastietruckin' and Bob Dobalina Thank this. -
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Sat out one night, hence the lower pay---it happens occasionally. i wasn't complaining because i could get some rest. This is not a guaranteed position----meaning you might not work every night. Reality-wise, you ARE going to work every night because we have a crap-load of freight, but occasionally it does happen that you will be sitting.
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1) Had a run/leg of 288 miles on fri night. This is the longest trip/leg i've had. i've had quite a few 240 mile legs and i think my average is 170-ish. But this was definitely the longest leg i've had so far. Total miles for the night was 550 and that is also my highest mileage night so far.
2) Rained all week 24/7; i have discovered that screwing around with a converter dolly in the rain, with deep puddles is STILL better than dealing with "slow" and/or rude customers and/or inside deliveries and/or residential customers who want you to bring THEIR treadmill down to their basement AND take the box away even if they do tip...........
a) i fail to see how a person could afford an upscale, large sq. ft. brick home in an upscale neighborhood and drive a Mercedes, yet have difficulty with basic functioning such as disposing a cardboard box?
3) Forward Air and CRST are two outside carriers that apparently do linehaul for us. (And forward Air apparently uses O/O contractors themselves....... sub,sub-contractors?)
4) Speaking of contractors, it appears that UPSF apparently allows older tractors for our O/O program. Older as in 90's; i've seen two FLD's hauling for us so far! So, if you're an O/O with an older truck, you may want to check us out. i think it's a pretty good deal if you don't mind driving at night......
Also, if the truck is that old, then they are still running paper logs?
Here are my thoughts on outside contractors(and this is a big factor in the current contract negotiations): We have a HUGE amount of freight, obviously. If we don't have enough company drivers to move the freight (and we don't), then how to pick up the slack? If we don't move the freight fast enough, then customers get p$%^^d off and we lose business. This is where the contractors come in.
As far as the notion/assertion that company drivers are sitting while contractors run, i don't think it has affected me---i've sat out about two nights since i've started and again, i wasn't complaining because i got some good rest.
If this is in fact happening, then it's a problem. At any rate, the company has to also keep the contractors moving or else they'll quit and now we, the company have a problem with moving the freight......
i look at them as human beings first, O/O businesses second: That i know of, there have been no tires slashed, no-one has been attacked---yet; Yes, we are greedy, but we're not A-holes..........
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RR, the answer is to hire more UPSF drivers and bump up the starting pay so the jobs can be filled. For what the job entails, our starting rate is just too low, even if ups is a good company to work for. If they keep stretching that door open to sub out the work, then another 10 years down the road, company drivers will be SOL.Last edited: May 20, 2018
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Move progression to no more than three years with starting pay that's comparible to the LTL companies is a must in this contract if we're going to attract enough drivers to cover our freight.
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