Vibration-pressure plate, pilot bearing, flywheel, or balancer?

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  1. MRMTRANS

    MRMTRANS Medium Load Member

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    How could it fall off? Mine is bolted between the crankshaft dampener and block at 155 ft-lb torque on 6ea 10.2 grade bolts on a S60 Detroit. Dampener and balancer would have to fall off on my engine, and both are piloted pretty tight on the crank end sticking out.
     
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  3. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    CAT had a reputation for them coming apart IIRC. Nevee saw it myself, but the old hands would tell me about it.
     
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    I guess routinely check the torque on bolts at crank end on a CAT. I guess there isn't enough room at the end of their cranks to pilot both the dampener and balancer and dampener is mounted between the crank end and balancer? You'd think a serious vibration could be felt before bolts broke or came off because both wouldn't be flush against the crank end.
     
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    The bolts isn’t where they come off, the outside ring is held to the center with rubber. They put a mark on them so you could see if the outside ring slipped. I have seen that several times.
     
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    Old truck, over a million miles, slip seating inexperienced drivers, rough roads, poor pre-trip inspections. The real question is how was the engine still running?
     
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  7. MRMTRANS

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    Oh I see now. My balancer is just what looks like a Balance Master for wheels. Probably made by the same company. I am mine is only steel-no rubber- and mercury filled. I was told balance masters last forever. My first thought is that it seems kind of stupid to design to use rubber. [​IMG]
     
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    oh well, I was trying to attach an image of all the different Balance Masters. I give up.
     
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    The older balancer with the rubber is the one that separates. The liquid filled will get hard over a period of time, course when liquid turns solid #### gets ugly. CAT doesn’t offer the rubber any longer. I do see them dug out at salvage at thrown on later model engines from time to time. I wouldn’t but it takes all kinds
     
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