Volvo VNL A/C fail always ON

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    PirateBox Bobtail Member

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    Some weeks ago i found the problem on one Volvo VNL.

    The Air Conditioning compressor was always ON even if the AC-OFF button on the control climate unit was pressed and led ON

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    It is possible to check with a multimeter direct on the AC compressor connector.
    After chech the Volvo VNL wiring diagram i see this truck don't have relays for activate the compressor. This use a direct 12V signal from the "Control climate unit" to the compressor.
    On the "control climate unit" pin number A12 you can check the voltage, with the AC-OFF button presssed and led ON, the vontage need to be 0V.

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    The pin A12 is located on the "Climate control unit" rear small connector.

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    The solution is to replace the "Climate control unit" for a new one. This is a electronic failure.

    The biggest problem with this is that even though the AC-OFF LED is ON in the control panel, the compressor is always connected and running, even when not in use. (more fuel expense and the compressor will burn out sooner).

    This problem can be avoided by installing a 12v led direct from the output of pin A12 to know if the compressor is really OFF or ON.

    Or if you don't want to buy a new control unit, you can put a dash board switch for cut or send the 12V to the pin A12 manually.
     
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    Snailexpress Road Train Member

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    Make sure you have read operator manual AC part and not foolish by Volvo stupid design. For all my life on all devices if button is lighted was mean it's ON. But not the Volvo 2013. If light is on means AC off. No lights for AC is on.
     
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    PirateBox Bobtail Member

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    This is because two differetn AC units are mounted on Volvo trucks.

    ECC Electronic climate control.
    MCC Manual climate control.

    Electronic ones has the OFF button (Led on when AC compressor is OFF)
    Manual ones has the ON button (Led on wnen AC compressor is ON)

    I think the difference between both is:

    The ECC will still try to maintain the selected temperature in the cab
    without the compressor.

    The Manual not.
     
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    PirateBox Bobtail Member

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    Im going to add some more info about the AC module replacement.

    All modules have a internal memory with the VIN number of the truck.
    After replacement, the truck have a new AC module with different VIN number.

    In this case we have 2 options.
    1 - Drop the truck on a dealer for a AC module VIN reprogram.
    2 - You need to open the two modules and replace the eeprom memory from the old module to the new.

    And the cuestion is: What happens if i hold the different module VIN number?
    Nothing, the module works perfectly but:
    If you have your own software/hardware for reprogram the truck modules, You can't modify the module VIN number because the software restrictions.
    and in some cases, the software can't bring you the option to reprogram the rest of the modules due a VIN error.

    Im going to add image of the eeprom memory location.