Warning all leased O/O

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by PoleCrusher, Jun 8, 2021.

  1. slow.rider

    slow.rider Road Train Member

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    You might be right, but I've gone on assignments which amounted to turning in old trailers so they could be "sold". One time I brought a beaten down old trailer I had on me in Chicago to a trailer dealership in Toledo where I exchanged it for a literally brand spanking new trailer.

    And I've also pulled Xtra Lease trailers that were considered to be "in the Landstar system". The first time I was given an Xtra Lease trailer, it was in exchange for dropping an actual Landstar trailer, so I called trailer utilization to make sure I wasn't getting tricked into some shadiness, they said no it's ok, that one is in the system and Landstar actually leases some trailers like that one.

    So it could be they lease some and say "company controlled" to include leased ones as well as owned ones, or it could have been where some folks used vague language with me for ease of use when in fact they lease them all, or like someone said, could be a shell game where the trailers are owned by a wholly owned subsidiary and then leased to Landstar for some sort of tax or insurance purposes.
     
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  3. slow.rider

    slow.rider Road Train Member

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    Ya but that doesn't necessarily mean they own nothing. If they own 10,000 trailers, lease 1000 trailers, pay for use of 4000 owner-op-owned trailers, own all their HQ land but none of the agents offices or yards, and own zero tractors, that would still meet the definition of asset light.
     
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  4. Ridgeline

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    Again guys, the sky isn’t falling, this has a slim chance of passing and it effects almost every small and medium business in the country, so relax a bit.

    if you want to put an effort into politics, start by learning how to effectively talk to elected idiots … I mean elected officials. As I said before, keep it simple, leave out that crap about other people and companies, focus on how it effects you personally and your business. Back everything up with facts, references and so on. Don’t be confrontational, don’t rant and don’t act like an angry person.

    There used to be a group who would organize visits with elected officials with groups of 10 of different areas in the country. They would arrange a meeting with each persons elected official and coach them how to talk to these politicians. They went away when the organizer died.

    For a mobile industry, having the ability to go everywhere, this industry is the least politically participating. Lots of room for improving the political dialog but most drivers and many owners are just too lazy. They will bi***ch and cry at the “lunch counter” but when it comes to doing anything, they won’t. This has been the case for decades.
     
  5. mudflap77

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    Yep, that argument made the rule for everyone except the exempt trucks. Then they argued they weren't automatic enough some elogs started recording right a away and some were 2 miles or 20 mph and look at what we have now. The #### thing records every engine start up.
     
  6. PoleCrusher

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    You may be right that it's not likely to pass, this time. But we know they will keep trying, if not at the federal level then in the states. They may even try to sneak it by during budget reconciliation, when any representative that votes against it will be accused of shutting down the government for the sake of corporate greed.

    That's why the general public needs to be made aware, of what this legislation does and how it will effect them.

    This issue is not left vs. right, or rich vs. poor. It doesn't matter what side you fall on, every one should be able to run their business and be in business with whomever they see fit.
     
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    Or will come back as parts of the original so everyone will say oh that's not nearly as bad as the original. So then the watered down version gets passed then added onto over the years. Look at the emissions laws they weren't passed all at once.
     
  8. jamespmack

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    Next if your scope of business is 200 power units, but you need 300. That is outside of your capacity and capability.

    A first year legal student could make the pro act unconstitutional.

    But don't get me wrong, I wish some of it on some of this industry.

    Blame the megas, not the terrible gov.
     
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    Reason for edit: Edited the landstar point because I'm a idiot and made a less then stellar point.
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  9. PoleCrusher

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    So how is it that California AB5 law was just upheld by the courts. The Pro Act is written in the same terms.
     
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    I do not understand how or why. It shouldn't except its CA. Home of CARB. Can anyone explain anything in that state?
     
  11. PoleCrusher

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    Good point.
     
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