Warnings on your CSA score

How sad.

But they don't. Read the links. You'll see a lot of this:

You'll also see this:

Some include level 3, some don't.

Here's the sad part about this. I believe Vigilo is a source of a lot of this bad information. If carriers are firing drivers for bad "scores" which are false, isn't that awful sad? There could be lawsuits everywhere, against the carriers, against Vigilo, etc..

 

I don't know,allan, one of those unexplained mysteries of life, like in a beautiful season like Spring, there's mosquitoes. Personally, I gave up years ago. I'm wrong a lot, and if someone thinks they know the answer, I let it go, because I'm not that "book smart", but at least I know enough regular smarts, to not park my truck on the railroad tracks, or tail gate, or holler at a cop. You know, important stuff.(or drive a truck for .34cpm)

 

You know what instead of being a jerk and editing everything I said, I'm just going to apologize to everyone here for that.

But make no mistake, the reason I'm trying to get this across is to help you guys. It really is. It's not about being right or wrong, it's about destroying bad information about CSA. When it first came out there was a lot of bad information and bellyache about it. I read the methodology quite thoroughly, and although there are flaws (some have been fixed since) it actually is a decent program overall. My main issue is carriers using the information incorrectly and firing drivers. They're really setting themselves up for huge lawsuits. The other issue is with violations virtually being unchallengeable. No doubt that the program would be changed in a federal court challenge.

Vigillo has been selling information to carriers about CSA for quite a while. When CSA first started coming out, I saw their reports at my carrier. It was all incorrect. They were using their own formulas. It was bizarre. I told my carrier to drop them and they did.

 

and that is the carriers score.... As a driver, I care about my violations.

A clean inspection does NOTHING for the driver, IT does not even show up on the PSP that you have had a clean inspection.

NOT the drivers score, a totally separate part.....

And time is the only thing that changes a drivers score down, via the time weight, and after three years the violation has a weight of ZERO. That is how time reduces one score.

 

in your own example, you totally demonstrate that time DOES reduce the score..maybe just maybe you do not understand

 

better look in the mirror

 

The formulas are the same for the Driver SMS as it is the Carrier SMS, just the time weights and rankings are different. I've provided those links before, you can check them if you want.

 

Look closer. In that above example (where the formulas are right from the Driver SMS methodology PDF published by CSA) simply having a violation doesn't lower your score over time (three upper examples). In the lower examples I show how the time weight multiplier only works with clean inspections lowering the score. The time multiplier actually does nothing for violations, because when you multiply something and divide it by the same amount, you end up with the original number.

 

and all that you wrote only affects the final score for the company....

The PSP, the drivers report that is PUBLIC, and visiable to the companies, does NOT reduce the drivers violations, except via time....

I could care less how the carriers score is calculated, which is all that report is about, and how the drivers inspections are used to calculated the final score for the company... yes for the INTERNAL reports used by FMCSA, the drivers score is reduced by clean inspections, but that is ONLY used for the calculation of the carriers scored. You might want to check your reading comprehension, and stop taking the calculation of the drivers score within the context of calculating the final carrier score, as the individual drivers score that is seen by the driver and the companies.

What we the drivers will see in a direct report from FMSCA, about a single driver, a clean inspection DOES NOT reduce the violations listed. And a clean inspection does NOTHING to reduce the score companies apply to the violations.

 

and again time reduces the final score... so time does change the POINT total... your own example shows that as time passes the score reduces...

Time, for carriers 24 months times 3
18 months times 2
12 months times 1

time lowers the score....