Weight question, slightly over on the steers?

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  1. Sixela918

    Sixela918 Light Load Member

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    So I've never really had to scale my truck (previous company was all dedicated, light loads). So I picked up my 1st pretty heavy load (32k) and went through the cat scale. I was about 12.26k on steers, 22k on drives and 28k on trailer tandems. I moved the 5th wheel all the way back and got the steers down to 12.12k. Steers need to be 12k or less I thought. Truck does have apu. Is dot likely to have an issue with my steers slightly over 12k?
     
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  3. pavrom

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  4. pavrom

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    Usually over 500lb they pay attention
     
  5. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    Not much help, but I've crossed the scales a lot over 12k. Once we'll over 13k. No issues so far. I mainly run west of 49/29
     
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  6. ZVar

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    Nope. 12k steers is an old wives tale and not really true. What is true is there is 3 criteria for steer weights.
    1. State weight ratings. Typically 20k, but varies.
    2. Tire rating. Typical steers are (If my memory is correct) 6,250 each.
    3. Axle rating. It's typically on your door jamb. Some are 12k, some are 12.5k, there are even 20k axles in some trucks.
     
  7. merv85

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    most of the time it will not be a problem, unless the scale guy is having a bad day and wants to remove his frustrations on a trucker.
     
  8. 201

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    There was a time with the old "platform" scales, I never stopped to weigh the steer, they were always more concerned with the tandems. Today, with modern scales, I think it's just a number, and if any of those readouts goes over a certain number, alarms flash, the president is woken up and notified, and it's curtains. Sounds like a lot on the steer to begin with, with those kind of tandem readings. Do you have a lot of fuel? That can add a lot to the steer, don't forget 150 gal @ 7lbs /gallon adds almost 800 lbs to the front, otherwise, something doesn't sound right. Maybe leave "Big Mama" home next time,,:eek:
     
  9. Sixela918

    Sixela918 Light Load Member

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    Almost full of fuel. Tanks are big on this Volvo. About 270 gallons
     
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  10. GYPSY65

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    I think a lot of trucks are being ordered with heavier front axles and the scale guy would physically have to come out and look at what you have
    Car haulers. Big bunks etc all have heavy specs
    My ticket is a big bunk with 14k in the nose of my trailer
    Only thing I’ve ever seen a scale do is look to see if I had the correct steer tires for my weight. Which I do have a wider float type tire and they e just glanced at them from their desk

    I think your good probably to 14k in most scenarios but I’m much heavier and doubt you’d get there anyway


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  11. Old Man

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    Can someone show me where 12,000 is steering axle weight?
    It is a single axle , 20,000 or what tires and axle is rated for.
    I think schools preach 12-34-34
     
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