Weight station

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Arkadiy, Apr 2, 2021.

  1. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    As you probably know, a lot of times there are readers and cameras on the highway before the scale, thermal cameras at the entrance to the scale and more readers and cameras at the scale.

    One trip through (can't remember if it was a scale in Montana or Colorado) I had time and the scale master was bored, so he showed me how their system works. I was watching as the screens scrolled as trucks were either bypassed or directed into the scale. There is a lot of information coming across their screens for each truck, even the ones that get a bypass. Some trucks are flagged by the system, some by him (he told me how he selects trucks). Trust me, "they" are paying attention most of the time.

    Technology is absolutely at the point they *could* track every truck pretty much all the time (e.g., time between scales), but there are still issues like connectivity, platform interoperability, bandwidth, etc. The day will come though...
     
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  3. jmz

    jmz Heavy Load Member

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    I’d be surprised if they have that big bank of computer monitors and controls up at the window when it can all be run from a single desktop computer in the back office. They definitely don’t see or care about obvious defects like headlights or taillights out.

    Anyone who goes through this particular scale enough times, especially at night, would tell you that they legitimately aren’t paying attention.
     
  4. Moose1958

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    First off let's dispel a notion that simply is not 100% true. Over half of all CMV enforcement is now done roadside with it only being done at a scale house during special enforcement periods like the CVSA June thing. In some locations across the US, the scale master is NOT a certified police officer. It is VERY possible for a scale master to be DOT/CVSA certified and not be a cop only handling CMV enforcement.

    Most of the time in the states that do pre-pass the scale master can see the pre-pass data as the truck goes under the interrogator prior to getting to the scale entrance. They can set these computers to pull in a specific carrier etc.

    With few exceptions every trucker I have spoken to that got equipment tickets was stopped along the highway.

    I too have watched scale masters work and can see the information available at their fingertips. The primary thing to consider here is all the states do this differently. Years ago the head of the Georgia DPS Truck enforcement would have a morning conference call with all 9 region commanders on who they were going to target. And YES they do target carriers.
     
  5. brian991219

    brian991219 Road Train Member

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    Spot on @Moose1958 it is a whole different world compared to traditional law enforcement and varies widely from state to state.
     
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  6. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    The only state I know of that does a significant number of their inspections at the scalehouses is California. And like @Moose1958 said, the ones that do the inspections at those big inspecting scales ore not LEOs. They are CVSA certified truck inspectors on the CHP payroll. I have had a few violations at those scales over the years and every time the inspector would give his report to a uniformed cop in the office who would be the one to write up the tickets. Which, incidentally, were all "fix-it" tickets.
     
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  7. Dockbumper

    Dockbumper Road Train Member

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    ^^^^ Yes, it is the world we live in....like it or not, it will become even more intrusive. I will retire in a few years and retreat to my "Compound" and holler things like "Get off my lawn!!!":rolleyes:
     
  8. jmz

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    I was originally quoting someone who was talking about one specific scalehouse, on Hwy 2 in Eastern Nebraska. They have the weigh in motion turned off and every truck gets the red light on prepass. They are most definitely not paying attention at night. It’s the kind of thing that you’ll notice if you go through there often enough.
     
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  9. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

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    Since the DOT troopers now have computers THEY are, in theory, connected. Any inspection involves a computer and your inspection today will show the computer all of your recent inspections so anything obvious can easily be checked and not repaired prior violations can become E Z tickets since it shows in the computer before the trooper even starts his inspection.

    As mentioned above most violations come from roadside inspections.
     
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  10. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    I understood the comment and I agree that in most situations the weighmaster is doing other tasks or simply half asleep! The point I was trying to make is some weigh masters sitting and looking at the scales is all they do. Over the last 30 years, CMV enforcement has changed a whole lot.
     
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  11. Moose1958

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    I look for a day to come when scales are fully automated. All tied to a central state-wide control center with maybe 2 people running all scales that are open 24/7. If they are set up like Florida there will be no further need for pre-pass. This frees up the actual DOT to be mobile. Let's not forget scales have two purposes. They are there to keep overweight CMVs off the highways AND a place to do inspections. Automated scales would work well for weight enforcement independent of inspections. I also see a day coming when a CMV can run under an interrogator that will cause the transponder on the truck to also give the HOS information from an ELD for display. Local drivers would be noted in the system.

    The day is coming folks when drivers will have a probe stuck in their gazoo just to start the truck. :downtown:

    I'm so glad I am retired!
     
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