Why do you feel entitled?
Should they hire a felon, even if it happened 20 years ago, same sort of thing. If it was a discrimination thing, thats different.
In their app. They clearly ask, about felony, misdemeanor, mary-jane, Alcohol, dui, dwi, and suspended licenses. They don't ask how long ago, they appear to wish to know if these infractions ever happened.
As a company, maybe they don't wish to have the added risk, or the added insurance expense. Maybe they should have a rider on their insurance, hire the driver that had a issue, but make them make up the difference in insurance costs. It sucks, I understand, but thats life. We make a choice, and if its the wrong one, we have to live with it.
I have a friend that is in sort of the same boat. He is a good driver, wants to team with his wife, but she had a dui a couple 3 years ago, nobody will take the chance. He swears after that she hasn't touched anything, but no company is willing to take a chance, and with a surplus of drivers, they don't need to. Maybe things will turn around when economy picks up.
Werner DUI exclusion policy
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In other words...C-Ya!
You have demonstrated poor judgment in the past. You may not do it again but there is a greater chance that you will than someone equally qualified that has never displayed the poor judgement required to aquire the DUI in the first place.
Yes...They should!
In my opinion if you have ever been convicted of DUI you should automaticly be disqualified from driving a commercial vehicle. That goes for alcohol and illegal drugs of any kind as well.
If you fall off of the wagon why would I as a company owner want that to happen in my truck?
YOU DRINK, YOU DRIVE...YOU LOSE!
Again you whine...In an attempt to justify your actions you try to make someone else somehow share your responsibility for your own foolish behaviour.
All people make mistakes, Some make big ones and some make small ones...You made a big one! We're all happy that you haven't done it again but most of us will pass over you to hire someone else because of it...
GROW UP AND LIVE WITH IT!Hanadarko, mustang970, zentrucking and 2 others Thank this. -
I have told every company about my suspensions back in '83, and '90.
You bet your bippy they check you out!!
Neither suspensions were my fault. One was a clerical error, and the other was requirements of the state. When you dropped insurance with one carrier they would report it to the state. There was no requirement to for the new carrier to say they were taking over.
Trust me they all talked to me about it!
What just hosed me with Werner was TN didn't take a 17 over ticket off my record. The judge lower it to 14 over. The state never removed the ticket. Werner thought I had a ticket that I didn't disclose.
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The smugness in some posts in this thread is revealing and unfortunate. Who do you people think you are? By what right do you judge others? It's laughable, but it's disgusting. You have no right, you have only arrogance.
Obviously the odds of someone who's maintained absolute sobriety for a substantial length of time driving a CMV or a private vehicle under the influence of booze or dope are much less than the odds of you "social drinkers/users" or "hard chargers" who've never confronted the issue. You smug little boys who "have a few" when you're out having fun or load up on stimulants, legal or illegal while you're driving CMV's are much greater risks to others than people driving to or from recovery group meetings.
Second, suppose Werner instituted a policy excluding all non-veterans, or all vets who never served overseas? How many of you would be excluded? (I'd pass. Kwang-Ju AFB Korea in 1968/9 is where I began converting my college beer busts into my binge drinking. It's my problem, no one else's, and I've been in recovery from it since 1984. But I can tell you for sure, a lot of vets then and now come home with problems manifesting in unsafe driving. Under Werner's policy, the issue is not whether we've confronted those problems, the disqualifying issue is whether we ever got a DUI behind them. It makes no sense.) But the point is, would those of you who avoided serving be so smug if this were their policy?
Suppose their policy required a college diploma? Regular high school graduation, not GED's? Only married applicants with kids? No tickets for "speed exhibitions?" (Ie, racing.) Home ownership with no foreclosures? "Top secret" security clearances? Homeland Security hazmat background clearances? Each of these examples has insurance ramifications. I'd pass them all, but how many of you defenders of insurance companies' obscene profits would this list exclude? Would you be quite so smug then?
Do you really believe minor (non-felony) offenses resulting from common behavior (driving a personal vehicle, not a CMV, after having two or more wines, drinks or beers in an hour) should disqualify a person for life? That behavior is pretty common among young men, wouldn't you agree?
Healthy people change as they mature. That's called "growing up," boys. Most of us manage to grow up. If you're the same person now as you were at 25, I sincerely pity you, but I'd sincerely contend your unsolved problems make you a menace to the travelling public. You're aiming a semi (including a flatbed) down the road with the attitude of a person who hasn't managed to grow up and either doesn't know it or won't admit it. Scary.
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I don't drink either...Even socially.
More to the point though...Driving while veteran has not killed anyone that I'm aware of, Nor has it been shown to be a real problem like alcohol.
Your analogy is deeply flawed as there is no comparrison to be made here!
If you drink and drive or if you have ever done that and got caught...C-Ya!
I'm not the same guy i was when I was 25 but even at 25 I had sense enough to know that driving after drinking was a bad idea!
This is the dumbest thing that I've read here in a long time...You honestly think that because we'd rather not see a person with a previous DUI (no matter how old) driving a truck that we are somehow flawed human beings...In fact that we are so flawed as to be unsafe drivers?
What is "scary" is that you obviously believe this crap!
Oh...By the way , I don't aim a semi, I drive a truck and have for many years safely so forgive me if I scoff at the feeble attempt that you have made to justify stupid behaviour and avoiding the consquences of your actions.48Packard, Markk9, Hanadarko and 1 other person Thank this. -
I think Silverider has been watching way to many truck driving movies!
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MrMustard I had a copy of my "DAC" had problems with some of the things on it.I have a very common name it just happened that someone with the same name and birthdate had a rap sheet a mile long. I didn't know that PBJ means nothing when it comes to DOT regulations.(Now I know lol). I did get my DAC straightened out.
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Ok I reread the original. You seem miffed that you cannot apply because of old DUI or you applied and they disqualified you because you didnt reveal? No matter, always put what is requested on the application and no more than they ask for.
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Never saw this before . I see the url in your post but not the image . When I hit quote the image shows up .
But all this about not being hired by Werner then asking what if Werner rejected this or that ...who cares ?Last edited by a moderator: Jan 2, 2010
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Well....It is Werner after all, It's not like it's a good job that you're losing out on.
My beef is with the sense of entitlement that some of these guys have...The "I'm good regardlees of the fact that my record says otherwise you should hire me anyway" mentality.
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