Western Express

Why make it more difficult than it is? Ya piss in a cup, and ya hand it to the nurse. Why "wait in the restroom a bit so i can see the strip and it read 93 by the time i gave it to the nurse it read 92 fadimg into 91 range."

Rugerfan was right, something ain't right here. Good luck with your future endeavors.

 

I waited to see te temperature to see if it was at the same remp as the one i gave at western. It was. Also read the dot guidelines on sec 40 and temp should be between 90 -100 so either way nurse was wrong.

 

Armpits keep fluid at a steady 92°.

 

Humboldt

 

I was (trying to) read through this thread (been up since 3 this morning), and saw mention of New York City. Do they make you run NYC at all? And also, do they have a pet policy?
Looking at them to get back on the road, and I'm trying to find out as much info as possible.

 

LOL someone went and got the lab made synthetic urine. Does it work? It should if you can get the temp up and keep it there. But the problem is 2 fold:

1. If the temp is low they can request you to retake the test. What are you going to do then? Unless you just happen to have taped another container of fake pee somewhere...
2. If the collection personal suspect you are cheating they can observe the collection. If you refuse then it's a failed/refusal of a DOT drug test.

DOT’s Direct Observation Procedures


1. DOT’s 49 CFR Part 40 directly observed collections are authorized and required only when:

• The employee attempts to tamper with his or her specimen at the collection site.

• The specimen temperature is outside the acceptable range;
• The specimen shows signs of tampering ~ unusual color / odor / characteristic; or
• The collector finds an item in the employee’s pockets or wallet which appears to be brought into the site to contaminate a specimen; or the collector notes conduct suggesting tampering.

• The Medical Review Officer (MRO) orders the direct observation because:

• The employee has no legitimate medical reason for certain atypical laboratory results; or
• The employee’s positive or refusal [adulterated / substituted] test result had to be cancelled because the split specimen test could not be performed (for example, the split was not collected).

• The test is a Follow-Up test or a Return-to-Duty test.

2. The observer must be the same gender as the employee.

3. If the collector is not the observer, the collector must instruct the observer about the procedures for checking the employee for prosthetic or other devices designed to carry “clean” urine and urine substitutes AND for watching the employee urinate into the collection container.

• The observer requests the employee to raise his or her shirt, blouse or dress / skirt, as appropriate, above the waist, just above the navel; and lower clothing and underpants to mid-thigh and show the observer, by turning around, that the employee does not have such a device.

• If The Employee Has A Device: The observer immediately notifies the collector; the collector stops the collection; and the collector thoroughly documents the circumstances surrounding the event in the remarks section of CCF. The collector notifies the DER. This is a refusal to test.

• If The Employee Does Not Have A Device: The employee is permitted to return clothing to its proper position for the observed collection. The observer must watch the urine go from the employee’s body into the collection container. The observer must watch as the employee takes the specimen to the collector. The collector then completes the collection process.

4. Failure of the employee to permit any part of the direct observation procedure is a refusal to test.

 

The people of NYC need their Poland Springs water, so yes you’ll be visiting. If your making your DM money they will keep you away from there. They sent me an email about a new Walmart dedicated account they have sounds better then NER. But I will never be going back to wester Express. Get your experience and get out.