What are your average rate.

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Ridgeline, Jan 25, 2024.

  1. Diesel Dave

    Diesel Dave Last Few of the OUTLAWS

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    You seem to know everything, if that’s the case, WHY do you start threads on how much everyone else is making ? Trolling ?
     
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  3. LOTSO

    LOTSO Heavy Load Member

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    So, by your logic, if the "Dual Authority" Broker had this as one of his loads that he Brokers to other Carriers, maybe on a load board or his regular guys he uses, out of the goodness of his heart, he would have paid $3000 for the load. So how does this man make any money then...:dontknow:
     
  4. ihaveaquestion

    ihaveaquestion Medium Load Member

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    It's what I'm being told
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  5. ihaveaquestion

    ihaveaquestion Medium Load Member

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    What I’m being told by drivers (nearly what'
    seems like a lot) is that the brokers are lying about the actual load rates out there in the market.
    • Customers paying the shipping bill
    • Brokers saying shipping bill pays this
    • Drivers say brokers double dipping one way or the other way, rates are terrible
     
  6. 062

    062 Road Train Member

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    You don’t understand how the broker/carrier relationship works.
    The old joke is:
    How do you know when a broker is lying?… their lips are moving.
     
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  7. ihaveaquestion

    ihaveaquestion Medium Load Member

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    I understand it. The real truth out there is the country and industry has so much animosity. There’s no trust out there because there's no trust, people half the time just doing whatever works, winging it, so we see freight being hauled all over for free. Then we see bunch of drivers complaining, regardless brokers are running to trusted carriers to just delivery quality especially non-asset based brokers.
     
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  8. shanman

    shanman Medium Load Member

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    Depends of length of haul but it starts at
    $.61 per 100 weight. 48k min and goes up to
    $.97 per 100 weight. 48k min.
     
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  9. abyliks

    abyliks Road Train Member

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    $295k gross, about 65k, ~100 nights in the truck with probably a 35% deadhead, should probably keep better track but don’t really care, costs money to run them all loaded or empty

    I worked 41 weeks
     
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  10. Siinman

    Siinman Road Train Member

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    From the Super Cold, snow, and Ice the last couple weeks rates have gone up a little bit. I have been sick for a few weeks and tried doing a couple local loads. Here is how that worked out. I normally do not do local loads since they tend to be messed up like below.

    Load picked up after 5 PM and delivered strait through 80 miles away. Got it for 1K. Get there and they kill the load because no product ready. Get Tonu for $200 and I had the same load the next day already. Says it should be ready and so I do it over again and have same issue but this time get a $250 Tonu. Next day I get a call from broker saying it is ready now this is 9AM and they need it right away. Tell him for $1500 I will do it one last time. Get it done in 6 hours and back home.

    Last couple weeks the loads have been decent from what I have seen.
     
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  11. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Wait, you said he agreed to $2600 and discovered that the broker was shorting him $400 so he end run the broker and went to the source.
    The real problem is that outside of brokers who don't have transparency on difficult loads, any broker makes an offer to the driver and if the driver accepts the load, that's it, the driver accepts what the broker offered. If the driver doesn't like it if they could have gotten more, and are pissed, this is on the driver, not the broker and there is no lying. This idea that all brokers are screwing drivers is really bad and some drivers need to stop crying about it and put more effort into making more money.

    That said, the broker wasn't wrong in your example, you are and the driver is.
     
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