What do fuel subhaulers make?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Selam, Dec 23, 2022.

  1. Boardhauler

    Boardhauler Road Train Member

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    Thompson & Harvey did the same thing - two guys, partners in a truck, running it two shifts. I'm pretty sure if you sign on with one of these guys, they help or at least direct you to the correct insurance. That's so critical they want it under their control. With the exception of KAG I also think you have to have a bit of an "in" ie knowing somebody or having good fuel hauling references from another company. You're also going to start at the bottom, so figure on nights weekends and holidays for years.
     
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    Growers use CO2 in indoor grows and hoop houses to regulate the atmosphere for optimal plant growth.
    They also use dry ice to flash freeze the harvest if they want to sell or process it later.

    Processors use dry ice to make "shatter" ( I'm really not sure what that even is) or hash. Oil extraction labs use CO2 (some use dry ice too) in their production process. The oil is then sold for direct consumption or infused into edibles or in vape cartridges. Our biggest lab also infuses it into drinks, including using CO2 to produce a sparkling water. My boss says you can't taste the weed, but it will get you high. I'll take his word for it.

    In the Spring of 2021 we were moving over a million pounds of bulk CO2 per month to growers. Now we are doing zero bulk to growers. All the small processors have folded their tents which has slashed the demand for butane as well. I was averaging about 3 overnight trips per month for butane, now I get one every couple of months. I just kissed $100K for the year, $30K less than what I could make hauling fuel as a company driver. I have a lot of reasons to stay where I am for $30K less, but those reasons don't hold up for $35K less and I'm worried about next year.

    It's a nationwide problem. I read the other day that New York licensed a bunch of growers, who produced over 400,000 pounds of legal weed, which they now can't sell because the state hasn't gotten any dispensaries licensed. Leave it to the goobbermit.
     
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    Co2 and butane were going obsolete when I was in the industry 8 years ago. Probably why it’s died down now. As more and more growers moved away from that and got into cold pressing.

    but what the hell do I know. I’ve been out of that industry for a long time now.
     
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    I may be wrong, this is the closest I've ever been to being "in the industry" but I think cold pressed extracts require freezing the product- meaning cryo/dry ice to begin the process and in cold pressing only the flower is used, as opposed to the entire plant in the regular method. I understand that cold pressing yields a very pure result, just not as economically effective. Our big loss has been the growers. As one told me last year; "I'm not going to spend money on carbon dioxide to grow more pounds when I'm losing money on every pound I grow."
     
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  5. LoneRanger

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    not in the sense.
    Cold pressing in cannabis industry requires using hydraulic press, no cryo needed.
     
  6. Selam

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    You could use liquid nitrogen to extract kief from bud. It's so cold, it causes the plant to become brittle and the kief to fall right off. Kief is pollen of the cannabis plant, what they use to make hashish. at ambient temperatures, the bud is sticky and difficult to separate without a forcible sift through a fine mesh screen, or breaking the weed down into a bubble bag to make bubble hash. Consider yourselves schooled on narcotics manufacturing, ladies and gents and non-binaries. Please don't ask me about why I know this.
     
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    Yes, I know of Thompson and Harvey. Insurance will be crucial. I have solid fuel hauling references, but I haven't done fuel for a few years. I'll never forget it though. You just stick to the routine, and never deviate. I found fuel hauling outfits, and loading refineries, to be way more safer than the cryogenics companies. These refinery operators are some salty old dudes who have seen some horrific workplace accidents, and they all walk a fine line. At cryogenics places, they were more careless, presumably they felt their product was safer than gasoline...
     
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