What do I do with a logbook?

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  1. ttyson

    ttyson Medium Load Member

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    All hazmat loads pulled in cal, are on the10 hour rule..
     
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    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    Non compliance with log book and drug policy will almost certainly lead to suspension of authority, as well as painful fines.

    Add to that missing maintenance records, safety compliance and driver fitness documents.....

    They'd be looking for a cross to nail you on.

    That's the GOOD news. The bad news is that In a serious at fault accident, the whole farm is at risk. At a minimum, put the trucking business in a separate LLC. It wouldn't protect the owner, but it would protect the farm.
     
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    Urziel Light Load Member

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    This guy sounds like he is one DOT Audit away from getting a immediate out of service order. Keep all your logs, even if he doesn't want them. Do what you have gotta to be compliant on your side and be ready to give DOT any info they want from you log wise when they audit this guy. At this point the focus is on protecting your career and getting the hell outta there ASAP.
     
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    If it's just a compliance review, not related to an accident, etc, usually they will let you know everything you're (the company) doing incorrectly. Then they will come back a month or two later and make sure your poop is in a group. If not then the fines and possible suspension of authority start.

    Do your best to cover yourself as much as possible. Keep your log pages, document as much as you can. In all likelyhood, short of being involved in an accident, there will probably never be an audit on a carrier with one truck. When I was a company driver my boss had 20 highway trucks and 5 log trucks. We went through an audit in 2006, his last one before that was in 1989.
     
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    Pffffft, I couldn't even get close to something like that Poole 6710 is the artist behind that Masterpiece !!!!
     
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    Not sure if intrastate is the same, but my carrier has to keep copies of my logs for 6 months and i cannot be more than 13 days behind sending them in.
     
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    Thanks, you guys. A lot of the questions I ask are part for me, part for the farm. Every job I've worked for them has come out a better organized and well functioning position.

    I'll be dámned if I let this one get the better of me. Although it is a lot more difficult than making Harvest lists for farmers markets and organizing delivery routes.... (Talk about flying blind, before I started those practices!)
     
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    Add to that--if it hasn't been made clear already--drivers don't keep any more than eight days logs available at any time. Some drivers like to keep their copies all together for several weeks, or a month, etc., but that's just inviting a road-side violation if there is anything wrong. If a driver wants to keep them longer for tax purposes or whatever, fine, just put them in a bag, briefcase, separate binder, etc.

    Same idea for the carrier. If they have to keep six months for DOT compliance, fine, but after six months put the records in a different place--or make sure they are unavailable if audited.
     
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    It depends on your bosses ### on how tight they need to be rolled in order to file them