What if it Snows?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Dave_in_AZ, Mar 19, 2018.

  1. MACK E-6

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    Thank you. I take great pride in my unhipness. :D :cool:
     
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    The drought will never be over. Every child born or body imported adds more drought to the equation.

    I think we should copy the success of the Hetch-Hetchy and dam the Yosemite valley also.
    Hetch Hetchy - Wikipedia
     
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    I'll weigh in regarding the "controversy" of whether or not there is global warming. When I was four years old my dad bought an old school bus and coverted it into an RV. On the maiden voyage he took the family on a hot August day in 1960 from Tacoma to do the circumnavigation of Mt. Rainier National Park.

    On of our stops on the way up to Paradise was at the bridge overlooking the origin of the Nisqually River. He stopped at the crowded parking area just beyond it, then handed out a rock to each of us kids. We walked back to the center of the crowded bridge. Everybody on the bridge was almost giddy.

    Why?

    Because standing on that bridge about 100' above a RAGING silty river pouring out the bottom of the glacier, the dirty glacier TOWERED over the bridge. It was easily another 100' taller than the bridge. On that hot August day it was like standing in front of the world's largest air conditioner. THAT'S why folks were giddy, amazed at the on rushing wind a glacier generates on a hot day, cold air rushing downhill.

    Each of us kids easily threw our rock and hit the glacier. The older kids managed to get theirs up on top.

    I challenge ANYONE to stand on that bridge today and throw a rock and hit the glacier. That raging Nisqually River? Just a trickle.

    Anyone thinks global warming is a hoax? Go up there and throw a rock to hit the glacier and get back to me. Screenshot_20190202-121712.png
     
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    "Global warming" is within the historical range of the earth. The earth has a way of changing from a heating to cooling cycle. A volcano here or there puts enough ash in the air to trigger an Ice age.....
     
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    How long ago was the Earth's atmosphere at over 400 ppm for CO2? What was the climate like when that occurred? What was the sea level when that occurred?
     
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    @Lepton1 is the glacier smaller because of temperature or because of reduced precipitation?
     
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    In my short 30 years of life I’ve noticed a drastic change in weather from when I was a little kid to now. The summer is hotter and winter is all over the place. I don’t know what the answer to it all is but it does worry me at times.
     
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    Temperature. Precipitation has been fairly constant over the last decades. With freezing levels rising precipitation is falling as rain in the winter at higher elevations. That's a double whammy. Rain on snowpacks in the winter melts through the snowpack.

    I attempted to get on the summit of Mt. Rainier about 30 times from 1976 to 1991. Successfully thirteen times by various routes. The amount of glacial recession is shocking. Ice climbs that were stable and relatively safe in the '70's became unsafe or unclimbable in the '90's. Many don't exist anymore, just cliffs of dry volcanic debris.
     
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    Good, valid questions. The answers are more than likely unobtainable to us with the education and tools we have available. The fact that the Earth has been through multiple rounds of heating and cooling cycles is something that humankind has a limited amount of knowledge about. The amount of evidence is massive, but we don't fully understand the process yet.
     
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