What is the difference Mexican/Candian

Discussion in 'Mexican Truckers Forum' started by rl1, Aug 22, 2009.

  1. Working Class Patriot

    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

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    You ought to see Kearny......Mexican trucks driving on the medium strip and passing in the right hand turn only lanes.......and......Mary Peters claimed they are safer than American drivers.....riiiiiiiiiiiggggghhhhhhhhhhtttttttttt!!!!!! :biggrin_2556:
     
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  3. MexicoTrucker

    MexicoTrucker Medium Load Member

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    There is no difference between the Mexican and Canadians. Take the "Mexican" away from "trucks" and there is no difference.

    OOIDA and Teamsters amongst others have used this to strike fear into the hearts of American truckers, who, for the most part, wouldn't recognize a Mexican truck from an American or Canadian. Correction, from an American truck. Canadians have those silly macho bull bars on many of their rigs.

    Opponents of Mexican trucks have wrongfully used border drayage trucks to try and convince people these are the de facto road rigs. Nothing could be further from the truth.

    However, the OIG Report issued on 03/04/2009 effectively debunked the safety issue and much of the other mindless fodder OOIDA had been throwing around. The latest OIG report, issued yesterday, showed that FMCSA has substantially met all requirements since 2002.

    The biggest problem OIG found was with states dragging their feet in updating the Federal databases with Mexican driver convictions, what few there have been according to the charts in the OIG Final Report.

    Interesting reading for those who can put aside their pre-conceived notions of the issue and digest the facts
     
  4. MexicoTrucker

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    Documentation? Try here or browse the many Mexico government websites (labor, transportation)

    Consider there are approximately 9 million CDL holders in the US, and I heard it stated on the Lockridge Report, about 900,000 US trucking companies.

    Compare that to the 250,000 ( +/-) Federally licensed commercial drivers in Mexico and the approximately 1200 mainline trucking companies in Mexico.

    Consider we have more than 4 million movements across the southern border yearly (down 28% this year because of the tariff's)

    If you believe OOIDA and other demagogues, The Mexicans are going to come here enmasse to take over our transportation industry.

    Yeah, Mexican drivers make about $.15 per mile. That is true as far as that goes. And it has been a point the opposition has pushed hard in our faces.

    What they don't tell you is that Mexican drivers are paid by the KILOMETER. (1.6 miles) So that $.15 cents becomes $.23 cents. A good wage by Mexican standards. Add to that the per diem Mexican trucking companies pay their drivers ($200 pesos a day) and that increases their earnings.

    In addition, you add the contribution to their IMSS accounts (Social Security) which enables them to receive free health care at IMSS clinics and hospitals for them and their families (This is government mandated)

    An interesting read is the July issue of NATSO TRUCKERS NEWS where senior editor Todd Dills spent a couple of days in Laredo researching the issue.

    One of the things he confirmed is that rates in Mexico, are 2.5 times better than ours, and the Mexican trucking companies have no desire to come here and haul our cheap freight. They haul theirs under contract with their customer both ways. So again, the argument that these folks will come here and take jobs and lower wages is ridiculous.

    They're worried we'll come down there and destroy their rates for our gain, something we've proven time and again we are capable and willing to do.

    Anyone pulled $.85 a mile freight lately? Bet you have and it ain't the fault of the Mexicans
     
  5. MexicoTrucker

    MexicoTrucker Medium Load Member

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    Funny you should regurgitate these tired old debunked arguments, especially as I listen to all the crap FMCSA and the Medical Review board is trying to cram down our throats.

    In some ways, they are trying to raise our standards to Mexico's, as it pertains to driver licensing, medical requirements and CDL testing.

    FACT: You CANNOT buy a legitimate Licencia Federal on the street in Mexico. It's been tried!

    FACT: FMCSA has no problem verifying driver histories of Mexican drivers history nor do states have problems verifying driver convictions, if any, according to the report released yesterday

    Mexico has long required 40 hours initial training at a government approved training facility before they will begin the process of licensing.

    They require a written test, road skills test administered by a Federal Examiner.

    They require a physical of the type required of airline pilots and accepted worldwide. In addition, psychological testing, drug and alcohol testing is required as part of the application process. All this is done in a Federal facility. You don't have a choice as we do here. You see government examiners, a process that can take 3 months as most of the 31 states have only one facility.

    Sounds like some of the stuff FMCSA is trying to cram down our throat doesn't it?

    Lax enforcement? Perhaps, but it works for the Federal government of Mexico and should be none of our concern.

    Especially since Mexican law treats accidents not as a civil matter but as criminal.

    For the serious violations that could cause us to lose our CDL for 6 months to a year after three strikes, a Judge in Mexico can pull a Mexican CDL for a period of 10 years to life, depending on the offense, and there is usually jail time that goes with it.

    As for as experience, none of the mainline companies in Mexico, the ones who would show interest in operating in this company, will hire anyone with less than 3-5 years experience, unless it is as a closely monitored "associate driver", second seat in our lexicon.

    You see, what you've posted hear is regurgitated garbage OOIDA has thrown out with no documented proof, expecting people to believe it, and it's worked. It's an old trick called "perception management"
     
  6. dirtyoldman

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    It is also a fact that police in MExico, ROUTINELY take bribes for payment of traffic infractions. So yes, any on the books tickets are verifiable, but when allot of traffic stops for minor violations are payable to the officer, thus NO RECORDS on file.

    I have been personally pulled over in Mexico on vacation, dont know what for, but I know it cost me a $100 bill, and there was no paperwork done.

    Maybe my taste for mexicans has been bittered, by the 20-30million illegals here. Maybe I hate seeing all of these non-english speaking people in my supermarket with 5 kids buying all there food on my tab, via welfare card.


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  7. Working Class Patriot

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    Not me.....and how insulting to assume that we would pull for that rate....

    I may have posted this before but I once had load to pick up from the border. I was supposed to drop my own trailer and then let a Mexican driver drag it down to Ensenada and then back up again...with the bins unlocked ect.....

    We called the company down in Mexico about safety and insurance and they told us that we had to purchase Mexican insurance....not a problem right?
    But the kicker was that if the Mexican driver got into an accident on either side of the border, I was 100% responsible for any damages, injuries, or deaths.....and if the trailer was God forbid....stolen...I would be S.O.L.!!!!!!

    Yeah the broker gave a phenomenal rate somthing like $3/m but WTH?!

    Add those terms and conditions....Even a $1000/m would be stupid.
     
  8. cactusjack

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    Free yourself from hate .... Have you hugged an hispanic today??????
     
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  9. Working Class Patriot

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    No...but I just had a Tecate con limon....does that count?.....:biggrin_2559:
     
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  10. rl1

    rl1 Light Load Member

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    stop with the "cute" comments, while they may be "appreciated" on other threads here we are trying to have a intelligent conversation...thanks
     
  11. Working Class Patriot

    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

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    It's a proven fact that liberals have no sense of humor....
    Humor eases tension and that's what the world needs today....
    Not bone-dry liberal "Share in our misery equally" logic......

    Any complaint about my posts or comments, feel free to pm a mod....
    Many others have.....

    Personally.......I have done nothing wrong, injurious, or disrespectful to any members....as of late......:biggrin_25517:
     
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