What is with rates???

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by Alf24, May 28, 2013.

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What is causing the unbelievably low freight pay?

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    Drivers taking low pay

    28 vote(s)
    44.4%
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    Brokers freezing and holding load

    3 vote(s)
    4.8%
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    Bad economy

    9 vote(s)
    14.3%
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    Shippers/Customers allowing freight to sit

    3 vote(s)
    4.8%
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    Loads being double, tripled brokered

    17 vote(s)
    27.0%
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    High driver to load ratio

    7 vote(s)
    11.1%
  7. Other

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  1. Billerd

    Billerd Light Load Member

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    Obviously LTL does not pay as well on a small gooseneck being pulled with a pickup. You only have so much weight capacity and space. However, when you get a "big boy's truck" ltl can get amazing rates even when you include all the miles picking up and delivering. We do it ALL the time. These LTL loads ALWAYS end up better than the full loads even when it adds a day or two to the travel time.
     
  2. Cluck Cluck

    Cluck Cluck LTL Wizard

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    The knowledge has been sucked right out of this thread. See ya
     
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  3. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

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    Hey bayoo, how'd you do at the races in Iowa awhile back?
     
  4. mcgoo422000

    mcgoo422000 Medium Load Member

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    A "big boys truck" as you put it cost twice as much or more to operate. Most claim at least 1.60-1.70 a mile before any drivers pay. I operate on .80 a mile. I did own a class 8 once the guy couldn't pay the repair bill. a cabover pete with a V12 detroit and 13 speed.
    sold it to finance company that original owner owed money to. Lets see you drive a class 8 through the mid town queeens tunnel?
    I also have an irrational case of acrophobia I done clipped mirrors on the lake charles bridge sitting that high I'd shoved someone over the edge.
     
  5. fortycalglock

    fortycalglock Road Train Member

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    Anyone that claims 1.60-1.70 per mile without drivers pay doesn't know what they are talking about unless they have a heavy haul setup. I can pay a W2 driver .50 cpm, run a new truck and trailer, $4 fuel at 6.6mpg for $1.70 per mile.
     
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  6. mcgoo422000

    mcgoo422000 Medium Load Member

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    As in new truck do you mean zero mile new? If you do a search here theres more than one that has claimed these kind of numbers and more to operate?
    my .80 a mile is probably a little high but I like wiggle room. Plus I like to depreciate out quicker to. Would you PM me a break down of how you come to this CPM and does it include deadhead?
     
  7. mcgoo422000

    mcgoo422000 Medium Load Member

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    You have supplied no knowledge just claims that ltl pays. Please provide data and some pictures to back up your claim?
    The one thing I find with the internet it allows people to build and present bigger and better half truths.
     
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  8. fortycalglock

    fortycalglock Road Train Member

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    Um, Cluck has plenty of pics in the flatbed forum of him stacking it deep.
     
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  9. MJ1657

    MJ1657 Road Train Member

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    And several posts on rates.
     
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  10. truckon

    truckon Swamp Thing

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    if I remember car hauling didn't work for you? and Gary didn't work?...what you running now??