Originally Posted by Markvfl![]()
No benefits and 1099 to start. If things go well and this grows to three trucks I'll go to withholding taxes, paying SS and regular employment.
Such a plan as that is illegal. Not necessarrily true but you must be very careful with how you title your employees and keep very good records.
They also did not carry any workmen's comp on the drivers either. This is a must.
Not sure how it is with RGN but in my company running vans or reefer the O/O that have another driver in their truck do between a 40%-50% split after fuel expenses.
What should I pay a driver?
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Markvfl, Apr 3, 2011.
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Showing where it is not illegal. I posted links supporting my claim.
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It may be illegal but it's how at least 50% of owner operators pay their drivers. Not here to debate morals and laws, just looking for input on proper wages.
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I guess you answered your own question. No decent driver with half a brain will work for you. You will have better luck finding drivers that other companies will not touch. Good luck.
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Just a thought here.
Wouldn't one have to consider this in negotiating a wage. My understanding of the 1099 "Independent Contractor" is that the person will be considered self employed and therefore have a larger tax burden. Morals and laws aside, if I was willing to work under these terms, wouldn't I negotiate higher compensation in order to cover the higher taxes? The 1099 discussion is therefore relevant.
I've no horse in this race because I don't have the expertise you would require, but you better hope you never have a disgruntled former "employee"- I've been told that whistleblowers get a 10% commission on what the IRS deems you cheated them out of. That's a nice "severance package" if you ask me.
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It can amount to more than 10%.
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Thanks, I'm by no means an expert, but that's what I heard. More is good if you're a whistle blower! The OP better take real good care of anyone working for him if he goes for the 1099 categorization.
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This is not the only industry that does stuff like that.
Like he said, there are a great deal of them doing it, but it does not make it right.
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Yeah, that's how I know a bit about it, I've got a few friends that are carpenters and they've run into it several times.
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You hurt my feelings. I'll be right back, after I finish crying...
It saddens me to know that I'll never be able to hire any Swift, Schnieder, Werner, CR England or JB Hunt rejects. Whoever works for me will have to struggle along in a maxed out long hood Petes and struggle by on $1100 or so a week while driving a grueling 2100 or so miles.
I guess the 50% of all owner operators who pay their drivers this way are wrong. If you're the type that wants to profit from "tax cheats" just turn in every owner operator you meet to Uncle Sam and you'll collect from half of them. Pretty good odds for you. If you're that type of person.
Thank you for reminding me that it's almost impossible to find people with enough character and motivation to take some responsibility for their own success and taxation.
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