Who caused this collision? With Poll

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by tucker, May 29, 2017.

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Who caused the collision?

Poll closed Feb 23, 2018.
  1. The merging truck

    84 vote(s)
    55.3%
  2. The camera truck

    5 vote(s)
    3.3%
  3. Both of them

    49 vote(s)
    32.2%
  4. Swift

    29 vote(s)
    19.1%
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  1. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    When entering a interstate you must YIELD to the right of way.
     
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    FreightlinerGuy Medium Load Member

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    I honestly believe both would share the blame as far as insurance companies go. Why didn't Prime slow wayyy down and let the truck in? Then this wouldn't have happened.

    Should you have to? No, but it would've prevented this from happening.
     
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    But Prime did slow to 45, according to the captions on the video
     
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    Merging truck by law gives away. He bullied onto the traffic right lane and should be cited etc.

    Truck in right lane shares equally blame. ALL it takes is a little braking for a few moments. But Mr Flatbed held his ground out of pride or something else and that contributed to a certainty of a contact.
     
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    I don't believe it. A cursory non-scientific examination of the video, shows the zipper lines going by "about" as fast at the end of the clip as they were at the beginning of the clip. I sure did not see a 15-20 MPH difference in their rate of passing from any one point of the video to any other point of the video. Note the rate of the zipper at the beginning then note the rate towards the end. Can you see a difference?
     
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    I didn't notice him slowing down either, just going by what the video said.
    I figured @Pedigreed Bulldog or @Ridgeline would tell us the speed by the dashes
     
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    This is what happens when two people of even stubbornness and bull-headedness converge in the same space and moment in time. Prime is lucky he suffered no more damage than he did.

    I say we vote both of them off the island.
     
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    You just nailed it. Cruise control. I didn't see him slack a tap. Not that he needed too but when everyone is driving around on cruise like robots this is what happens.
     
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    i think more blame to fall on prime if he had slowed to 45 rather than maintain 62, if your trying to merge and vehicle in the lane your trying to merge into slows to match your speed its going to be increasingly more difficult to merge you have 2 choices to slow to 25-35 and merge at 35 or hit the gas and pull a move like the van in the video. obviously hit the gas is not the right move but the other situation is less than ideal as well.

    had prime maintained 62, truck merging is coming down the ramp at 45, prime would of been ahead of him before the end of the merge lane

    if prime did not slow down to 45 like the video claims then all blame falls on the merging truck
     
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