Who caused this collision? With Poll

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by tucker, May 29, 2017.

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Who caused the collision?

Poll closed Feb 23, 2018.
  1. The merging truck

    84 vote(s)
    55.3%
  2. The camera truck

    5 vote(s)
    3.3%
  3. Both of them

    49 vote(s)
    32.2%
  4. Swift

    29 vote(s)
    19.1%
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  1. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    Where's Abby when you need her?
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    But again, initial reaction in that situation would dictate that if Prime had maintained speed, and the other truck not gassed on it, it would have probably been a non-event. But at some point you have to realize only one of you is thinking that way, and you need to develop another plan, quickly.
     
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    I have watched the video 4 times. My only conclusion is two idiots found a way to collide. Either get on the fuel or back down and always assume the merging traffic has no clue. Easy enough.
     
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    #### or get off the pot!!!!

    Problem with slowing down is the tard trying to merge usually decides to slow down at the exact same time. Way I see it, you want into my lane, figure out how you're gonna do it. If they're already mostly ahead of me, I'll slow and open the gap up a bit. If we're neck and neck, #### you. You can tuck in behind me and pass me later.
     
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    It has to be the merging truck, for the sake of simplicity and preciseness, it has to be the merging truck. Saying that the both are at fault is not going to do any good. The traffic laws need to be precise and unambiguous and in this instance there should not be any interpretation.
     
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    But the question is who caused it by their actions, not who's ticketable.
     
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    The merging truck is the culprit. Only him. You may argue that the camera truck could have been more predictable but this has to be the merging truck to be solely responsible for this.
     
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    I'd assign 60% blame to the van driver and 40% to the Prime driver. Ultimately the van driver is 100% responsible to merge properly, but it's a professional driver's responsibility not to let idiotic actions of others threaten them, and drive defensively, to the extent they can.

    Dollar says at least one, probably two, of the drivers in question were engaged in a phone conversation.
     
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    There are many situations similar to this one when you try to think and anticipate what the merging vehicles are going to do, sometimes it simply does not work, I anticipate that they will speed up and get ahead of me but I am wrong and the result is that I slow down and they slow down, or vice versa. The point is that the merging vehicles always have to yield, there should be not need for anticipation.
    Well, of course, if the camera truck driver was a hard ### trying to prove something, then it is a different story, but who can tell what his real intentions were.
     
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    And this is why I will always state my case for riding the center lane in busy areas of 3-lane as long as you can drive the speed limit or match the general traffic flow. Just saves so much grief over just this type of situation, especially for truckers.

    That situation is not one any trucker wants to find themselves in, but it happens sometimes. But for some reason, I'm not sure the Prime truck would have moved over even if he had the entire roadway to himself. I just get that "vibe" (my spidey sense based on what I observed in the video clips)
     
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    Clearly the merging truck. As soon as the moron didn't give up, I would have slowed and just let him in. No point in trying to fight an idiot. I'd rather make up the 25 seconds I lost from slowing down than trying to catch someone who hit me.
     
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