Who is responsible......

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by nikmirbre, Feb 14, 2025.

  1. nikmirbre

    nikmirbre Road Train Member

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    Ok, try to follow me on this one.....

    I picked up a COD load(It was a freight liner truck the buyer/receiver purchased). Me and what I thought was the "broker" agreed on a rate. I signed a rate con for $1958 on like 300 miles.

    I spoke to the buyer and told him id pick up in the morning and be there in the afternoon. Which I did. Meanwhile, it turns out the buy was told the rate was $1850. Through some calls it turns out this is true. So, when I went to unload the buyer paid me $1850 and I told them I dont drop until its paid. The "broker" told me to send him and invoice and he would pay the remaining $108 through Zelle. Ok tow truck shows up(couldnt get it restarted to unload) finally and I said ok. Buyer paid, Im off to my next load and "broker" hasn't paid. And of course, he's not answering me now. But, in speaking through the buyer, I found out who the broker was. He was dealing with a totally different company than me. The company he was dealing with was the broker and who I was dealing with appears to be a carrier.

    Not gonna lie, I normally dont check MC numbers on cash only loads. If I had checked I would've seen it wasn't a broker.

    But, I do plan on going after my $108......cause its not about the money at this point. So, can I go after the original broker on this? Ill name names in a few....
     
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  3. aaron1995

    aaron1995 Bobtail Member

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    I see the word Zelle in a load description and I move on to the next. Just my two cents. Not faulting you for doing it because I know how it is. Good luck. For me I think it’s sometimes just better to cut your losses and move on to the next.
     
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  4. xsetra

    xsetra Road Train Member

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    Who's name is on signed rate confirmation.?
    That is the liable party.
    File on their bond.
    Good luck.
     
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  5. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

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    I have seen some of those loads and passed on them everytime because I always thought it was some double broker weird stuff going on...
    sorry for ur luck man that blows.

    I would get in contact with the original broker since u recieved that information from the customer, they may or may not know their stuff is being double broker out in the first place and would like to have that info

    @JimmyTwoTimes @PPNLE might have have some better idea
     
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  6. ElmerFudpucker

    ElmerFudpucker Road Train Member

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    Yep! I see Zelle or cash app and I automatically put them on the block list. I will do C.o.d but it’s exactly that. CASH on delivery.
     
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  7. nikmirbre

    nikmirbre Road Train Member

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    Ok, I generally use Zelle every now and then to send the kids some money. Is there something i should know about Zelle? I generally see it on new broker MC’s. Which is good because I won’t work with new brokers unless it is Zelle or some form of instant payment.
     
  8. nikmirbre

    nikmirbre Road Train Member

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    That's the thing, I got the load from truck stop and it was the original broker. Rate con was a trucking company and I didnt catch it. I went to file on the bond and they dont have a broker bond of course. AND...the day I booked the load their operating authority was revoked. Luckily, I woke up this morning and they deposited the $108 into my account.
     
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  9. ElmerFudpucker

    ElmerFudpucker Road Train Member

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    I don’t know that there is anything wrong with it. As long as you trust the person on the other end. Frankly a small part of it is the fact that I don’t want another app to learn. But a big part is the fact that they are new brokers generally seem to be not American and it’s always some piece of #### that was bought at auction. I don’t do auction freight because it’s always a pain in the dick. Every once in awhile while I’ll get tempted and it ends up being a #### show like every other time.

    just like this load
     
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  10. JimmyTwoTimes

    JimmyTwoTimes Medium Load Member

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    If I'm understanding everything correctly you can file against the surety bond of whichever broker tendered you the load for the remaining $108, assuming they have a bond and it hasn't already been maxed out.

    Technically you legally pursue the buyer for the remaining $108, but it would likely cost you more to go that route than it is worth.
     
  11. PPNLE

    PPNLE Road Train Member

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    Pretty much this. While I get that it's not about the $108, at the end of the day, you're going to burn a lot more time, trouble, and effort than that $108 is worth. I'd start by calling the company that the receiver was *supposed* to be working with, and see if they know anything about the load, etc. Maybe you'll get lucky. I know we'd probably pay $108 bucks to find out someone effed us.

    Should you not get lucky, I'd honestly just chalk it up as a lesson, and move on. If someone promises you payment in terms of anything that's not check, comcheck, wire transfer, ACH, etc, that should tell you all you need to know.
     
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