Holy! I don't know how much you know about the trucking industry but if you think just because you own your own truck your gonna make all kinds of money then your obviously misinformed. Heck nowadays its seems if you own a truck your destined to be poor. Seriously if you think its that easy you need a reality check.
Who makes the cheapest Daycab?
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Dead wrong pretty common to get a Mack vision in the mid to lower 14's full of fuel, why do you think most of the fuel hauled in this country is done with a Mack truck ability to spec a light frame rail and the trucks run every day I've seen some KW 660'S get pretty light but there using ISM'SLast edited by a moderator: Oct 19, 2009
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True, I don't know much about the trucking industry. I do know that the O/O's that (pretty much) do the same job I do, ((pulling the same trailers, delivering to the same stores)) are making $3,500 - $4,000 per week simply because hey own their own truck. Where I only make maybe $750 - $850 per week, working for "a company." I'm no diesel mechanic, but I'm sure I could handle fluid+filter changes, lube jobs, misc. repairs and keep a few dollars in my pocket.
Plus, most stores we deliver to, let O/O's that live local to the store park their truck in their lot overnight. So, parking the truck/trailer will never be a problem
The company "we" pull trailers for, sells O/O's Fuel at a very low price, insures O/O's trucks for them, offers Health benefits, etc.
Trailers never have more than 35,000lbs of product in them.
I've been doing the job for the last year in a 2005 International 8600 daycab with a 425HP ISM Cummins, a Eaton 10-speed, 3.90's in the rears, and "bare-bones" interior.
I only see myself needing (wanting) a bit more horsepower/torque for the hills.
I'm not married to the international brand, that's why I created this thread.
If I can buy basicly the same truck (but a different brand, maybe with a bigger engine) and save some money, I'll do it.
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Remember this, ALL that glitters is not gold. In my book cheap = junk, I think what you should be looking for is something right in the middle. HP = more fuel, more repair costs, and more down time. You don't get something for nothing. Oh, and in general, you will pay more for a truck at a dealership than anywhere else. Pete, and KW's cost more than IH, Freighliner and Volvo's.
O/O's pay their own fuel, they pay their own insurance, tires, truck/trailer payments. Next time you fuel your company truck look at the cost of that fuel bill. One truck tire costs $300+ these days! There is no free ride.
Not saying the O/o's where you work aren't making $4000 a week, but that's pretty good pay, actually its nearly best case scenario. If I was you, I would ask to see some pay stubs week after week to see if they really are making that kind of pay on a week after week.
Don't take this as a discouragement, just keep your eyes open and your brain turned on. Matter of fact I am a brand new O/O, and am loving every minute of it so far. But, I keep my fingers crossed every minute of everyday that my truck don't break, or I don't screw something up royal. If and when I do, I PAY, I am responsible, nobody is holding my hand, nobody else.rookietrucker Thanks this. -
I guess you would want to know who had it before and how they took care of it. Proof in writing if possilble. Talk to people using what you are looking at. They have nothing to gain by telling you what they have encountered. Also the number of available trucks (model type) of what you are looking for will give you somewhat of an indication of what is going to work for fleets and proven vs. what isn't.
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Very well said, Kansas.......great post...

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Got reefer? said: ↑Mack427 said: ↑Most of are local fuel haulers run Freightliner's. You can spec them light too.
Mack's are not reliable the company i most recently had nothing but problems with them from 01 models all the way to 05 models.
I could scale more in a Kenworth w9 than a vovlo 670 with same motor and trans. And had 95% more downtime in the vovlo.
Id rather run a ISM than that piss ant boat anchor of a motor mack has.
I just have it out for mack volvo i think they are a joke of a truck IMHO.Click to expand...
I have spent a whole lot less on maintance on my Macks than any other brand and any other motor
Mack and Volvo is still apples and oranges Volvo was needing Mack's engineers to fix there screw ups just as much as they was trying to corner the off road market
What problems have you had I'll give you 04-05 Mack had turbo and egr issues which they ate, you can find 04's with still fairly new turbos under warnnty fuel line and belt tension issues that have finally been resolved
pre 04 change over on the head, and if you didn't keep the overhead run chance you might eat the cam,
no power if you boss ordered a mess of 460 or 460e's with 10sps tall gears, yeah you got no torque or power
427 460p 460xt totally diffrent torque curve truck don't even drive know where near the same
vulva has a good turning radius I'll givem that but the cab to wide electronics way to complicated for the wrench turners we have in this countryClick to expand... -
The drive train is not the only thing that matters. When your A/C quits, when your door handle breaks, when a dashboard short prevents your truck from starting, these things cause downtime too.
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