Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Lol.....I know A&E don't pay that much, hasn't for several years since SLT came in the industry. Pal you have no idea what being a outlaw is all about......Bet your one of those dispatched drivers that wont say no to a load, or can't say no. Your probably just a glorified company driver aren't you?

When I say Outlaw, I am talking about freedom to do as I wish, when I wish, for who I wish. Yes, I go to California, when I want, got a $8000.00 load going there Friday. When California and their all knowing CARB guru's say my truck isn't welcome there after 2014, you all can have that State. I reserve the right to run where I want and when I want, period.

 

You keep thinking that. SLT didn't gut it all.

 

Have fun with your elogs and governored out trucks ill stay local with my 389 Pete no governor and paid by the hour sitting at the mill for 3 hours and getting paid time and a half over 40 keep letting the government control you like little puppy dogs on a leash

 

Well first and foremost to all you "It's a violation of our rights". Well your flat wrong. See you have no right to be on these roads. It gets no simpler than that. You can be extended the privilege of participation but you have no right to it, and certainly no right to operate your business on it. If compliance with the regulations and laws is so onerous for you people feel free to seek other employment.

Neither of the posted topics to this thread right one new law or regulation. Nope not one. What they do accomplish is enforcing compliance and track failures. Nothing more and nothing less.

All the sob stories about how tragically unfair it is because you face special circumstances or conditions are false arguments.


Now for the individual excrement spewed.

Snowwy no where have you seen or heard of me driving tired, or you flat out lie that some box forces me to. I know most of you people have been spoon fed the belief if you tell a lie often enough it becomes truth. Well sorry to break your fragile little psyche but people with a functioning brain will still see the lie your flawed logic is based in. It is a fact you can be compliant and rested.

Now your special needs argument started you had to much work to do besides drive eg: tarping,securing, handling your load. Well everyone is different however I have found no exemption to the 14 hour rule for you having to work more, nor should there be one. It was my suggestion perhaps you seek pay for those activities to which you responded that you tarped plenty fast to carry out your day.

Glad to see tarping and securing no longer takes up so much time(or possibly your failed argument was exposed) however now your specialness seems to prevent you from driving a full shift without the benefit of a nap.Well still having a hard time finding a regulation stopping you from doing so. So my considered advice is to go ahead and take your nap. No one will care overly much. However your customers may well find some one capable of, as I mentioned, being both safe and compliant.

You know with all your problems perhaps a different career where you can work less would fit someone as special as yourself.



Intranzit.
I salute your use of google to figure where my oath comes from. I do apologize I never suspected someone would be simple enough to think I was accrediting myself as the author. I shall correct it to the form requiring a citation so I can place Ms. Rand's name and prevent your confusion. I have no idea what a pseudo intellectual is. But if it is a person that brings meaningless points into a debate to misdirect attention from their failing and beleaguered argument I would use another oft used saying "Pot meet Kettle"- Author Unknown

Win-Some-Lose-Less

Well if your so adept at avoiding the laws and regulations governing this industry why worry yourself.
See I'm betting it's gonna effect what you claim to be. With the chameleon laws, CSA, GPS corroboration for HOS and IFTA coming on line and insurance companies making people toe the line I expect people that request use of these roads and then scoff at the laws governing it will not find it as funny when they can not buy a policy to book the load to pay their substantial fines.

Feel free to bet against me. I have been wrong before. See I bought this eraser once in college but I never did need the dang thing. Complete waste of money.

Scania I can not state how bad our sentences will need to get to put a stop to people killing people in pursuit of customers, or money. I have no problem with someone being convicted of vehicular Manslaughter if they are out of compliance and kill or severely injure someone. In fact I have long been a proponent of far more severe penalties in this country for a myriad of infractions. However those are probably for another discussion. the simple fact is these are going to be used to enforce existing regulations. Could those regulations be changed or modified to accommodate certain circumstances? Possibly, however as it stand they are the letter of the law so to speak(Yes yes Intansit they are a combination of laws and regulations)and should be followed by those requesting permission to operate out here. I will say however we have this round of HOS seen a definition of egregious infractions as opposed to petty infractions. I see that as the FMCSA trying to delineate between the guy running 5 minutes over once a month trying to find parking and the guy just running out of compliance because "He feels like it".

 

i wonder how much coffee tazz drinks during there shift. cuz that naive way of thinking has really brainwashed.

if your regs are really that great. then how come all you BOX LOVERS are flipping your trucks upside down on the side of the road??????


sorry, but i'll never give up my career. i make more money now. and i'm doing it on the very FREEDOM THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON before your brainwashed govt came along with all there stupid rules. and i'm doing it safely. MY WAY. and i don't drink coffee or take energy drinks to do it just becuase i need to work 14 hours.

there isn't a person in the world that doesn't require some sorta power nap during there work day. OR off day for that matter. don't matter what profession.

hardly anyone sleeps a full 8 hours like you wish they would. let alone 10 hours. the body was designed to recharge itself. and only the body knows when it's time. NOT YOUR NOR THE GOVT CAN CHANGE THAT.

oh wait. your a robot though. you can work and sleep when the box tells you to.

instead of being the allmighty preacher cuz you THINK the govt is right. maybe you should go back to school and study medicine. then maybe you'd see that your WAY OF THINK IS WRONG. cuz your obviously have no idea how the body works. YOUR JUST AS STUPID AS THE GOVT.

you want drivers to work by the rules. then maybe you better start creating robots to do our job.

better yet. come take your arse and do my job. then you'll know what it feels like to actually work. instead of just bumping the dock opening your trailer doors. this is the perfect time for you to see how you can cope. CUZ IT'S HOT OUTSIDE.

 

Starting to use caps is a good indication of a lost arguement.
Seldom do I nap during my 14. Not saying I never do, but it is seldom, even at my advanced number of years behind the wheel.

BTW, where's the doors, to swing? Oh, there they are, on the tarp boxes!

 

Yup, he hit the nail on the head there, no flexibility, that's the problem!

 

No tazz I'm agreeing with you, what I'm saying is these boxes are not the way to do it cos they simply don't work!! Since their introduction the rate of 'falling asleep' accidents has increased not decreased, they have done nothing here but put small operators and o/o's off the road! I work with these everyday and I promise you they are a nightmare to live with! When they are introduced there as a mandatory thing there will have to be more flexibility but with over zealous cops flexibility is something that won't happen!

 

EOBR's....for an O/O like myself...and the guys...(all O/O's) I keep in touch with on a weekly basis...we don't need them....

here's why:

1) we really don't run an illegal log...we don't have to nor do we want to!!!....
we don't have a dispatcher or anyone else on us badgering us to drop the load....
if we are late..oh well...
just wait for the next open appt( which is very often 30 min later anyway...big deal) ...

oh..did I mention we drive for the legal hours..or less ( a lot of the time)...
we don't have someone pressuring us to drive beyond the 11 hours ....
we even have several customers of ours state to us:
" don't worry if your late, as long as you get there safe"..

2)If involved in an accident with a 4 wheeler or another vehicle running an Illegal log,
a team of Lawyers is more scary than any DOT officer handing out fines....
that's why we don't run an illegal log now..or probably never will....

3) It's an expense that will someday be required,(to install an EOBR) but for guys like us,
it will never be monitored by a manger, dispatcher, etc....
an expensive useless electronic monitor viewed by a weigh station DOT officer somewhere...someday...

4) Bottom line:...big trucking started using EOBR's due to their grossly mismanaged operation and mis-informed dispatchers..
This way while using EOBR's it takes the responsibility off of the Carrier ( READ BIG TRUCKING) ( for their mis management and complete disregard for safety).

....since big Trucking can't and will not get organized ...
they persuaded their politician buddies to try to push this EOBR thing through to "level their playing field"...

not my playing field...

Myself and the guys ( all O/O's ) I keep in contact with weekly do not even fit into Big Trucking's realm of trucking
( with which they have been using these EOBR's ..and continue using them).


MY TWO CENTS ON THE EOBR ISSUE....

CRUSIN

 

Company driver?
No, let me break the first rule of the interwebs by telling you my lifes story.
Learned from my father how to do heavy haul, OS/OW etc while in high school.
Started my own company with one used POS COE in 1997
went broke, started over
grew to 8 trucks, RGN's, steps, etc...
sold out in 2010. That money has been reinvested and is now my primary income.
working part time now to keep from being bored to death.

Tell me how a prospective buyer goes to his bank to borrow money to buy YOUR company that has no paper trail. Your company is only worth what you can sell your trucks for, your customer base cant be sold as you obviously have no contracts, you cant sue anyone for breaking a contract with you so if you do have contracts they are worthless. How do you sell worthless contracts?
I guess if you plan on driving a truck till you're 85 years old then you've got a great plan. My plan is to build a few successful companies, sell them at a profit, retire on a beach at 55 years old. "Outlaws" cant do that.