Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Theophilus, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. THBatMan8

    THBatMan8 Road Train Member

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    You are rewarded for a clean inspection. You get to keep your job. :biggrin_25525:

    Side note: Some companies do offer rewards for clean CSA inspections.
     
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    This is funny, higher pay safer roads. Higher pay will never happen as long as mega fleets keep training drivers that dont have a clue what trucking is about and fleased o/o keeps falling for the bs. I see more rate cutting companys going out than i do ones with bad saftey numbers. Its funny how with the new hours of service a few years back the roads are the safest they have ever bin with accidents and deaths at an all time low. I will say this again anybody that thinks eobrs and speed limiters are for safty and will make things safer needs to pull there head out of there rear end and see the light. I'am gald i only have about 15 more years driving because with the new breed of drivers allready around and comeing up trucking is only going to get worst. As one on here said the new guys are going to show us how its done. From what i've seen so far from alot of newbies all there going to show us is how to screw thing up even more.
     
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    CSA 2010 is a oxy-moron. It was intended for safety in the fact that the FMCSA wanted to weed out the super truckers, but on the opposite side of the coin it brings too many inexperienced drivers to the road, because customer demands have not changed. Instead of one super trucker who's been driving for 30+ years, you have 5+ inexperienced drivers in his place. I don't know which is worse.

    E-logs are a different ball game. The purpose of e-logs is to reduce major log violations. Drivers running with a e-log are less likely to cause a fatigue related accident than a driver running with paper.
     
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    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    The theory of the less fatigue is not really a true fact.

    You may get the new hours at midnite, but not be rested. Yet the EOBR will say you are and the many companies will be looking for you to drive when hours are available.
     
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    Nope. Part of the equation is how many stops you recieve that are good and how many have a violation.The ratio is about four clean to one bad I believe, or put another way if you recieve a violation you need four "clean" ones to counter the bad points. I'd have to go find it again and frankly I'm tired of looking up stuff so believe it or not.
     
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    That's why I used the keywords "less likely". You can come off a 34 hour reset and still be tired. That statement was aimed at the drivers that use 2 or more log books.
     
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    Yes, I know that some carriers do pay a fee for a clean inspection. Some pay about $25.
     
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    At one time, clean inspections did not help the driver. If that has changed, then good. There should be a way for drivers to be rewarded for good inspections.
     
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    BTW You dont have to use 2 or more logbooks to "rewrite history". If you think that everyone using E-logs are the answer to this, THINK AGAIN. I know that if this ever came into effect there would be a way to hack and manipulate them. An good example of hackers at work, satellite tvm do you think everybody actually pays for it? If you do, wrong again. Its called free to air (FTA) and there are several different makers of boxes that will get you free satellite tv. Its been around for several years. So why couldnt or wouldnt they do it for e logs? Obviously there will be a demand and those demanding will be willing to pay. It will never be a cure all and there never will be one. I do feel bad for drivers using them and getting low pay as they will be pushed to drive and of course they will as everybody needs to eat right? They will be the ones that end up driving while fatigued way more than a guy like me using paper logs and being log violation free, month after month. BTW my company pays 100 bucks for every clean roadside inspection, level 1, 2 or 3 doesnt matter
     
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    I thought we were discussing the SMS ratings as they are the only "points" awarded by the FMCSA.




    http://csa.fmcsa.dot.gov/FAQs.aspx?faqid=1417


    http://csa.fmcsa.dot.gov/FAQs.aspx?faqid=1414


    Now a PSP lists all inspection and crash data. So good inspections would be listed as well I believe. Really need to order mine I guess. Just don't see the point when I know what will be on it.