Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Theophilus, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. West coast trucker

    West coast trucker Bobtail Member

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    Dont read much outside news source's do you?
    http://www.sfgate.com/technology/do...rless-cars-go-ahead-3894339.php#photo-3506579

    And no "slots" for this car.

    Driverless cars are here, trucks will be next. Trains would done been there if not for there union.
     
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  3. volvodriver01

    volvodriver01 Road Train Member

    I really don't understand how there can be two completly different opinions on e-logs and EOBRs. What I mean is every professional driver knows there is no place in trucking for this crap yet they DO NOT care about the industry enough to say so. You can come on here and preach all you want about the good they will do but how about showing some proof. I bet there have been more accidents in the last 2 years that have involved trucks running with e-logs and EOBRS than paper logs. Why is that? I can tell you why it is because they do not make the roads any safer and SAFER is what they preached upon for getting people to jump on the bandwagon in support of the e-logs and eobrs. I am done trying to convince the ones that don't like to think to much while they do paper logs. It must be easier to hit a key on a keyboard than to pick up a darn pen. It is a trend I mean just watch drivers walking from their trucks to the truckstop and see for yourself where "truckin" in headed. Its getting very sad. Go back in this thread and you will learn alot of good information.
     
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  4. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    Your ideal of trucking is based of a of a perception of "freedom". That isn't trucking, it's heavily regulated. You can't be upset because your perception is not reality. I'm actually not that afraid of dying, I have a healthy respect for life however, but I think that everyone needs reminders from time to time to help them see that they're not perfect. If confronting a driver with the facts about their driving habits can open their eyes then it's worth it. Most often it doesn't but every now and again someone will see the light and start to make changes in their behavior.
     
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  5. FozzyNOK

    FozzyNOK Road Train Member

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    Yeah, its not the fact that the hayseeds and lifestyle truckers working for free 90% of the time.. could never be that...
     
  6. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    The Utube you attached, and the article is "old news"...and evidently YOU didn't bother to read the last 4 paragraphs about all the pitfalls and "glitch"/"error potential that include the "unknown unknowns" about the technology.

    As I stated in my post....it isn't feasible for commercial trucking with the multitude of delivery/pick up locations, clearance (overhead and surface) and length restrictions we encounter every day and night. Not to mention the communications problems that "radio technology" would run into....you think cell phones are great(?), get out of your "city confines" and get into the mountainous regions here around the west and get back to me....
     
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  7. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    I don't bother reading new from any source. My 5 year old knows everything, so I just ask him.
     
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  8. snowblind

    snowblind Heavy Load Member

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    no he dosent know everything till teenage years lol
     
  9. volvodriver01

    volvodriver01 Road Train Member

    One question. Any driver and or company that is running E-logs and EOBRS that are involved in an accident that is proven they are at fault whether an accident or not should lose there license and or be thrown into prison. My question is even though it was proven to be just an accident the fact they are running E-logs and EOBRS and are supposed to be safer since they were still at fault they should do the time? My point is accidents happen you move on and learn from your mistakes. E-logs and EOBRs will do nothing good for the world. Any driver involved in an at fault accident while running E-logs and EOBR should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and lose their CDL for life? If you can not perform your job safely then you have no business being on the rode. You can not prevent accidents no matter what crap you force upon a driver. Just admit that the fact is they are not for safety but for control. You have to be in control.
     
  10. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    Any driver that is involved in an accident where there is a loss of life should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Elog or Paper. I would venture a guess that more Elog drivers are running compliant than paper log drivers. The only difference between paper and eLogs as far as control goes is the timeliness of the log audit. You're much more likely to change behavior if you address is sooner rather than later. Elogs I can audit in near real time, paper log I'm looking at probably two weeks until I get the logs and then another 2 to 3 weeks to perform the audit.
     
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  11. volvodriver01

    volvodriver01 Road Train Member

    Whether death is involved or not shouldn't change the stance on the subject. If a driver is involved in an at fault accident while on E-logs and or EOBRS they should automatically lose their license and serve some prison time along with the company the driver chose to drive for. If E-logs and EOBRS are so spectacular for the industry then the ones wanting and or agreeing to them should stand behind them and since everyone is stating they make the roads SAFER then they are agreeing to do some prison time for getting in an accident. If the drivers and companies agree to use them then they should stand behind them 100%. My point on the matter is the companies and drivers that want and or except them should be willing to do the time since they are the ones that allow them to be forced. Just because E-Logs make someones job easier or less time consuming doesn't mean they are needed.
     
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