Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

But what does behaviors have to do with the question? He is asking does it make the driver less safety oriented? No there is not a difference in the drivers safety with the examples EZX1100 gave.

 

Those are the regulations, if you choose not to follow rules like speed limits and hos, when do you decided to stop following rule like stop signs? I mean they're all just signs and some random dude that you've never met decided there should be a stop sign/speed limit/school crossing sign. So I'll take it back to behaviors, you've elected to work in a profession that has set rules. You don't like the rules so you call them unsafe. I'm all for questioning the regulations, and so are the folks that write them. That's why they change from time to time, that's actually where CSA came from.

 

So answer this question. Which other professional would you deal with who decided which rules that the will and will not follow to get more money out of you? Why shouldn't doctors, lawyers, cops, teachers all just disregard the rules to get home sooner or to simply get paid more?

 

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you translated non-compliance into unsafe, and that is not reality, that is "compliance-talk", spoken by DOT and Safety managers

please explain to the court how the two are related and if they are, how so? has it been proven or just a lie repeated often enough becomes truth?

what if there are drivers who drive when they are rested, and rest when they are tired. They do this religiously, however, they are never in compliance with the latest DOT rules, are they unsafe?

or, are the HOS some hodgepodge collection of data with no relevance to how any OTR actually drivers, but an act by the feds to show they are "tough on truckers"?

i think most drivers know it has nothing to do with safety but everything to do with control and politics, so that being the case, why would any driver repeat their drivel as if it is fact?

 

stop signs, traffic lights and SOME speed limits are well within most people's definition of logic

however, maybe there are some drivers who are driving down a lonely dirt road in the middle of the night, clearly visible in all four directions, and he comes to a stop sign, sees clearly there is no traffic in any direction and instead of coming to a complete stop, he slows down to 1mph, and then grabs a gear

in the real world, that was not unsafe, but to some people that is a criminal act

Thomas Jefferson asked a profound question, Is man made for laws or laws made for man?

ask yourself that once in a while

 

Some speed limits, but not others. Most people's but not all people's. Why should you get to pick and choose which rules you follow, what if everyone did that (and for the most part I think people do). I get where you're coming from, you don't like rules that limit you. Then do something about it. Ask questions of CSA and your lawmakers. Get involved, simply not following the rules will more than likely lead to more rules and stricter enforcement. If you want change, then change. It's not going to happen by following some speed limits, rolling thru some stop signs. There are regulations in the industry you chose to be a part of. Are they clear and well defined, not so much. If you want to work in the gray work in the gray. But choosing to violation the established regulations and then saying it's not unsafe because I'M driving isn't good enough.

 

If a Doc is in the middle of a surgery on me I hope that he will keep going rather then stop when a stupid box tells him he can't work anymore.

Elogs are only about time and nothing more. if I am going to be stuck hours away from home then no I will not do what it takes just to get home for the night. Sorry. I have my limitations also. if I have worked that long then I am already ready for a break and I am going to take it rather then risk a few more hours just to get home.

If I followed Elogs or EOBRs then I would loose out on 200-300 days because of loosing a half hour here or a half hour there. I don't know about anyone else but to me a 300 dollar loss a week is a big deal. That is 1200 dollars a month over not fudging 15 minutes to a half hour here or there.

 

sorry, i dont have a million dollars to give away to any lobbyist to bribe a politician to vote for things in my favor

i would just prefer drivers stop repeating nonsensical mantras that are not based upon safety or reality, but politics and the appearance of doing something

as far as speed limits laws etc, i have yet to kill anyone, nor even come close, i treasure my life and the life of others to put them or myself in jeopardy

o, lemme take that back, i drive thru snowstorms like the rest of you, and in my opinion that is more dangerous than any speed limit out there

my proof? on any given day, most of us will not see a rollover, but after a major snowstorm we can see sometimes up to two dozen jackknifes

so if safety were really an issue for ALL OF US, none of us would drive thru snow and ice

but we all do because its part of the job, the country needs their freight and is paying us to deliver it

 

So what if your Doc wanted to make a few extra bucks and he's already done 14 hours of surgery today. So he just rushes through because the patient wants it done. What's to say he doesn't misjudge something and slices an artery, so instead of a partial nephrectomy, now a vascular surgeon is coming in to fix the tear in your descending aorta. Glad his eyes were on the dollar signs.

 

meltom, that happens, more often than not

my issue is why are people who dont drive allowed to dictate to people who drive professionally?

and even more surprising is that drivers repeat these laws as if they are factually accurate. I cant remember the last time i slept or needed to sit still 10 hrs. after 6 i am up and after 8, i am going stir crazy

though i can agree on the 70 hour rule, we all need a day off