Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Theophilus, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. Autocar

    Autocar Road Train Member

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    I would not be against that.
     
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  3. volvodriver01

    volvodriver01 Road Train Member

    :biggrin_25514:Holy cow we agree on something. Wow... :biggrin_25514: :biggrin_2559:
     
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  4. volvodriver01

    volvodriver01 Road Train Member

    Really I think this would benefit the industry by eliminating alot of drivers that hurt the industry by a one and done process. A driver gets caught 1 time they are done, gone, put out of the world of trucking. Same goes with a company, there is no freight worth paying $100,000 fine for pushing the driver. Say a company pushes 10 drivers to run illegal within a days period thats $1 million dollars. There is no freight worth paying $1 million dollars a day in fines just because they pushed drivers. And by doing this the legal guys running paper would not have to be punished by the illegal others.....
     
  5. Autocar

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    I believe in full, unwavering enforcement, of the current regs. It is the method of enforcement that we disagree on.
    I will say this, also, I don't necessarily agree with all the regs. However, they are the regs that we are saddled with, until we can get them changed. I am certainly not against trying to get them changed, I am only against disobeying them in an effort to change them. That method, historically, has seldom worked.
     
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  6. EZX1100

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    no answer, huh?
     
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  7. G/MAN

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    Not too long ago I read that most hos or log violations are from math errors rather than deliberately trying to violate the hos. We have too many rules and too high fines as it is. We don't need more regulations or higher fines. What we need is more people with common sense.
     
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  8. Autocar

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    Sonny, this industry has been constantly changing since before I got into it, well over 30 years ago. If you haven't seen change in the 8 short years, your profile claims, you're running with blinders.
     
  9. Cowpie1

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    That is the primary plus (one of the very few) to something like Elogs. To reduce or eliminate those goofy errors that get people in trouble that they had no intention of violating. CSA the way it is, isn't going to allow for errors. The fewer errors on logs, equipment violations, etc the better the score. Why rack up points on stupid stuff, like being real tired, doing the logs, and not realizing until it is too late that your math was goofed up. I have done that in the past just like everyone else. Fortunately, it was not caught and cause trouble for me. But as much as we would like to think we don't make mistakes, even the most experienced of us have a bad day.
     
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  10. EZX1100

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    so the hours of service and csa are changes, not because the sleep patterns or rest requirements of drivers have changed, not because roads have changed, not even the trucks themselves have changed, but merely the new regs and elogs are the changes themselves

    change for change's sake

    most would call the nothing short of bureaucracy

    some may have more choice words for it
     
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  11. Autocar

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    The roads and trucks haven't changed? What planet are you on?
     
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