Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Theophilus, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. MSheets

    MSheets Light Load Member

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    Have you ever tried to sleep bobtailling around a city? You won't sleep.
     
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    Unsafe driving is solely the drivers fault. The driver is driving that truck. E-logs have nothing to do with that. I've seen drivers driving like morons way before e-logs. I also see a lot of O/O speeding in work zones with narrow lanes cussing for everyone to get out of there way that have to get through. So that crap does not hold water either.

    The problem with CSA is if you get a violation for no PTI or Post Trip it's charged as fatigued driving. When CVSA and Mn. was doing their own fatigued classifications not related to being truly tried it was also listed in CSA as the same.


    My Brother works for England and they lost the PrePass because of their safety record.
     
  3. Jorihe84

    Jorihe84 Road Train Member

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    Your speculations are way off.


    Try to remember these are all training companies. That unsafe driving is rookies learning to drive.
     
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    Really? Try this little real world example. You're parked in the back row of the truckstop, ready to leave and you draw your line to Line 3 Driving at 12:00 PM as it is now 12:04PM. You pull out of your spot and head for the driveway, out. Three quarters of the way down the row you stop to wait for a driver to get backed into a spot, that is particularly difficult. This takes 10 minutes of your time, but you don't redraw your line. You get to the driveway and it goes right out to a busy 4 lane street, with no traffic light and sit another 10 minutes. You still don't bother to redraw your line. You have just wasted 24 minutes of your 11 hours of driving time. Our E-logs are setup to go to Line 3 when the truck has rolled 7/10ths of a mile, not when we release the brakes to pull out of a parking place. That is 24 minutes of driving time saved in just one instance. 24 minutes of productivity lost on a paper log. With the rates I get, that 24 minutes more than pays the monthly service fee.
     
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    Anyone running paper logs that does not know how to take care of that does not need to have a CDL let alone be in a truck.
     
  6. Autocar

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    Yea, right!!! Some new kid might believe that line, but many of us are not new and know just how many will actually fix it.
     
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    Now try what happens in the real world... draw a straight line on the log, then see how the morning goes... draw in your start time when loaded or empty then lose no time at all. WOW. it's hard.. Good grief
     
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    Unlike others that make this so difficult to understand. It's not rocket science, you roll the way you want and do your thing. But your way is not the best way, just your way. My way is not the best way, but it works for me.

    Got it?
     
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    Autocar, that was an awful example

    because the way you had to limit yourself to a 7/10mi correction, how about you leave the parking lot smoothly, make a right turn onto the interstate and BANG! traffic has stopped because an elog driver rolled his truck, but its not completely stopped, but one of those 2mph stop&go traffics

    and you still "waste" the same 24 minutes and havent gone anywhere

    now, compare the correction of the paper driver vs the correction of the elog driver

    WHO LOST PRODUCTIVITY now?
     
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    Changed my mind as I don't want to argue today. Sorry . :biggrin_2559:
     
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