Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

AAAAHhH is that a "Apples and Oranges" comparison? Is your complaint about ELOGS or the current HOS???

ElOGS in your scenario has nothing to do with what your saying,it would be the HOS,even if you were on PAPER same thing would be happening(If you were logging totally compliant),if you had time to take a nap then ELOGS shouldnt be an issue,if you didnt have the time to take a nap and get there LEGAL then it is a moot point,,,,Now if in your scenario.Your talking about breaking up your day and some how ELOGS(NOT HOS) is the problem???

 

I was pretty much going to say the same thing. Nice work.

 

You my freind need to get out of trucking and head to washington, you would fit right in with the one way thinking going on there. Look at the some facts, cars are at fault and i can not remember the exact % but something like 70% of the time when a big truck is involved. So for that the truck driver needs more regulation for something we can not control.

Not one civilian should be harmed or killed by trucks but its ok for truck drivers to be killed daily by 4 wheelers mistakes. I will say this again all you guys that are for elogs and the rest of the bs need to pull your heads out of your rear end and realize its about the money not safty. I need to be regulated more because swifty hired mr laid off computer guy and put him in a truck in lees than 6 weeks and then wrecks and kills some one, i do not think so.

 

The trucking industry is a commercial business, generally Interstate Commerce...with this, the comparison of 4 wheelers to big rigs is "apples and oranges", except for the commercial use of a 4 wheel vehicle. But the majority of 4 wheelers are not commercial but private.

It sounds to me that your argument isn't so much with the regulations or EOBR's, but with the training companies...in your case, specifically Swift...

By your statement...anyone who, in their former career had nothing to do with trucking, but with computers...has no business getting into this industry to make a living for themselves and their families. Do you really think that trucking is only for those who have a family history in transportation?

 

You have a good point . E-logs will not stop speeding , tailgating , and other reckless moves by inexperienced drivers letting themselves be pressured by DM's . They cannot be sure a driver gets enough rest while off duty . They will reduce violations to a degree but how much will that improve safety ? There are millions of accident free drivers out there whose performance will not be improved by HOS changes or other new regulations .

 

Elogs compounds the problem. HOS is... ...what it is. Neither one is all that great but I can work with HOS... ...why can't they quit messing with it and leave well enough alone. Heck, even the old system of 10 hours driving worked fine for 80 years. The whole point of elogs is compliance, so everything looks nice and neat on a computer printout. That's all good and dandy til somebody gets killed because a compliant driver continues to drive tired. Now someone will come on here and say, pull over and go to sleep. you're preaching to the choir cause I do. But that isn't the case with everyone out there.

 

Its not apples to oranges when we are on the road with them and they are the cause of more wrecks then we are. But we get the shorter end of the stick.

I used swift because thats what came to my minded at the moment and i have no problem with any one getting into trucking. Stop reading into something thats not there. My problem is with the idea that more regulation is going to help trucking be safer but a company can put someone in a truck with as little as 6 weeks driving time and send them down the road. Nobody else see's the issue here. Elogs will make things safer but the guy with no time on the road and no clue is just fine. Me who has never had a log book violations and thousands more like me have to go by the same rules as a guy with 3 weeks time on the road. Any other industry time on the job and good safty get rewarded but not in trucking.

 

So you want a system where you pick and choose when to violate the regs that you don't feel are important. Nice. They only person that can move the truck is the driver, if you aren't feeling well don't move the truck. Same like you would on a paper log. Inexeperienced drivers compound the issue.

 

That would be correct. Those of us who've driven for decades, never layed a scratch on anyone ever, and have passed every drug test we've taken, are indeed sick and tired of being regulated by corupt drug using 4 wheelers.

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I just think you're focused on the wrong item. The eLogs is just logging things as you do it, the real issue would be the HOS. Big deal you can log around them on paper, all your documents are false. Focus your energy for change on the HOS and not on the eLogs.