Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

My type is red blooded American. I don't waste my time in the political forums and don't see any seperation between politics and much of what is discussed about trucking in many sections of TTR, especially this section on regulations. So calm down Mr and please by all means drink some cool aid.

 

Since you're buying the drinks, I'll take mine with two fingers of Stoli.

 

I wouldn't let you have one Injun I'm referring to the Jim Jones brand of cool aid for braindead types.

 

Nope looking at numbers at not seeing this drastic increase everyone keeps claiming in fact seeing a decline has nothing to do with emotion just facts.
The numbers are declining and there is nothing to suggest better enforcement would not continue to improve those numbers considering everyone readily admits they violate HOS. I am curious how many actually log what they do. Very few I would bet. I wonder how many of the ones whom committed suicide in 2009 were good at falsifying their actions. Shame they couldn't have the decency to only kill themselves. Well some of them did just not enough.


Now if 300 people or 500(*) people dying is ok so you can avoid some stress I would submit we are lucky you have no position of consequence. You yourself have admitted there is no difference in the data recorded(or supposedly recorded by hand now) and an elogs except it made you feel pressure. I still submit a portion of that was your condition when on elogs but you deny that so I have no substantial proof.






*Depending on which catagories are included in driving fatigued.

 

So crash, injury, and fatality stats declining is pure chance? If regulations can have nothing to do with it that is your supposition.


All for actually training all drivers of all classes. No not just two wheels or four whells everbody. Of course as soon as we begin to discuss training and or testing you get the instant response of" NOT ME I KNOW HOW".

But I would agree to some actual training standards and tests. Real stuff not the comics used to dispense the licenses now.

By the way this like CSA is not a new regulation really. It is changing the enforcement tool of an existing regulation. Semantics I know but that is the truth. Before the EOBR rule log books are required after it is posted EOBR's will be required. Just an equipment change really.

 

I wonder how many have crashed and/or died or killed someone else in full compliance on e-logs or running the old logs. I hazard a guess there are probably some considering guys continuing to drive that are technically compliant but really drowsy and have no business driving. No regulation will ever be able to stop all crashes.

 

Just because you are compliant doesn't necessarily mean that you are driving safely. Being compliant doesn't necessarily mean that the driver is rested or not fatigued.

 

Exactly, that's been beat to death in this thread and really what it all boils down to. I am in the crowd that thinks things are fine just leave them alone, enforce what we have, and get on with our lives. I am really just sick and tired of every single issue of "Truckers News", "Landline", "The Trucker", etc that I've picked up having articles about pending changes to hours of service regulations for the past 9 years. Truck related fatalities have been going down for years. There will always be some fatalities no matter what. Whenever I see the head honcho of FMCSA quoted as saying "we want truck related fatalities to be zero", and he or she really have been quoted saying that for years, I just roll my eyes. We live in an imperfect world. Trucking is imperfect and drivers will always have to schedule around customer needs along with regulatory constraints. And the fact there are mega carriers and ATA who fraudilently act as if they want new regulations in the interest of saftey, when reality is they are mostly looking for more anti-competitive measures so they can corner more of the markets, it just gets so old. And the cheerleaders all seem blind to those aspects.

 

Tazz, your stance on this issue is completely counter to your signature tagline.

Who is John Galt?

--indeed

It's clear to me that CMV operations are getting safer, and nothing about eobr's MAKES anything safer. But it does push us towards an ever increasing society based on oppressive bureaucratic functionaries.

The eobr scenario playing out right now is exactly what Atlas Shrugged warned us about.

 

How is this still going?