Why so long to process accident scenes?

all fatal wrecks as far as i know here in the states, are treated like a crime scene when someone is killed, and the coroner needs to pronounce the victim(s) as dead at the scene.....at least this is what was told to me, by a CT tropper, when i had to pull into the Greenwich scales on I-95 NB.

and if the coroner was golfing, you will wait till they find him, or if he was out at night at party, you will wait till they find him.......it's the way it is.

 

They need to start weeding out the idiots. Far too many don't deserve to pedal a bike down the road yet they're driving cars and/or commercial trucks.

 

when i was totally, totally against 18 year olds from driving, or ex-cons, or non-English speaking people, i was told time and time again, trucking is not rocket science....

well.......it does take common sense, a brain, a reasonable IQ, fortitude, understanding of many things like road hazards, construction zones, braking, and a few other things to maintain control of that 80,000 vehicle, at all times.

in time, those that didn't like what i was saying oh about 10-15 years ago, up to this very day, might be starting to see the light, i shined on driving big rigs.

 

Personally I think its more an attitude problem. Impatience and entitlement rather than skill.

 

Why? Insurance companies. When possible tens of millions of dollars are at stake, a few missteps by law enforcement, EMT’s, crash investigators, etc., that Insurance company come down on them like a ton of bricks.

 

I do also but over the last 25 years I’ve been told that by opp many times so I assume it’s a special coroner for accidents

 

With staffing shortages and other emergencies occurring at the same time there may have been cases where one had to come from TO but I know for a fact there should be a coroner available in Northern Ontario at all times. Depending on the location and road/weather condition at the time it can still be hours before they arrive.

In at least one of the three I posted no coroner was needed at the scene as the deceased succumbed to their injuries in hospital after being transported there.

In two of the ones posted the accident scene didn't block the highway and you can be sure many went by before the first responders were on scene to close the highway. I saw dashcam video of people driving around the scene where Arnold ran into the back of RIG. I don't buy for a second that in many cases a path couldn't be opened to clear the stuck traffic without compromising the investigation.

 

I have seen emergency crews emergency rescue, fire and ambulance as well as police all block roads excessively for no other reason than they never bothered to evaluate the situation.
Now I know they need to get there, respond in a timely manner and begin working the scene. This can and does sometimes mean they will take much more space than is needed at the start.
Problem is once on scene and working we always have an overabundance of emergency personnel standing back barely finding enough to keep them busy.
This is what irkes me, there is no reason those folks could not close up things a little bit and start getting things moving a little bit in many situations.
The other is small town fire departments that close the entire road for almost anything at all. My local fire department basically closes off blocks before and after the slightest issue and seems to be proud of it.
Its more than understandable that in some cases they need to start with a wider berth but if they pay no attention after the fact and have people standing around talking about other things to pass the time, those very people should be the ones assessing if the road can be used enough to get some traffic moving. After all the longer they keep it backing up the more danger they create for others as that backlog continues to grow.
Closing a small town road over an inch of water built up at one spot of the road and the entire side of the town as result. Or a small incident like a parked car getting hit resulting in several blocks in both directions or a fire that has all equipment and firemen 100s of feet off the roadway in no danger at all is just ridiculous.

 

I think they block lanes more to protect emergency personnel than anything. No one slows to 60 and gives a lane here in Manitoba, I don’t blame them for shutting it down with the drivers in our industry.

 

Having went through 2 out of 3 crash reconstruction classes so far, I can tell you that nothing about crashes is easy and nothing about crashes will get done fast. The amount of evidence at every crash scene is insane.