why you do not want a automatic.

billy1975374 · Mar 19, 2016

Ok.The highest I can start is 3rd in perf & 4th in Eco modes.I would think there would be more programming options with the computer. I don't like economy mode 40MPH in 11th gear and the whole cab shakes it just seams gutless. I have been told that this is normal. It's great out on the highway just not so in the city. I understand most people are after fuel millage but I'm not . Just wondering if someone out there has had the same complaints and maybe found a happy medium?

RayH · Mar 19, 2016

moraramis said: ↑

Yes, and you'll also have to start logging your bathroom breaks along with the weight of them, which means each toilet will now come with a scale built in. Don't eat a lot of cheese and peanut butter. An overweight ticket will spit out of the stall wall.
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This made me giggle for some reason..I need to see a psychiatrist.

Pumpkin Oval Head · May 27, 2016

brsims said: ↑

Automatics are standard on faster cars for the simple reason that a human shifting a standard is at a major disadvantage when it comes to hitting the gears every time perfectly.

Look, I've driven both types of transmissions in some pretty darned powerful cars. And with the older type of automatics, I could outrun them with my stick shift every time. But these new autos shift smooth as glass and hit the gears at the exact time to maximize acceleration. My left foot and right hand just can't move fast enough to keep up.

Car transmissions have advanced by leaps and bounds in the twenty years or so. The introduction of computer controlled fuel injection, valve timing, and shifting has taken "supercars" to a whole new level. In most supercars today, you get an automatic with an optional paddle shift "manual mode" that is basically only useful if you have a modded exhaust and want the extra "bark".

Why would we believe that truck transmissions are still locked in the stone age after seeing all the advancements in cars? I've talked to several guys in my own company running the new DT12s or M-Drives (we currently have a few of both) and getting their keys is similar to trying to take a shark's favorite squeecky toy. Chances are you're gonna lose a limb, and the shark is gonna keep the toy.

Automatics are going to be the standard in The industry within a few short years. Heck, by 2017-18 my own carrier will be mostly automatic, and we are not a "mega" by any stretch of the imagination. If there are some cranky old buggers (like myself at times) that want to hang on to the old stuff like grim death, best wishes to them. As for me, my cranky old knees and ankles are seriously looking forward to the day I finally get moved into my new automatic.

And by the way? My new Mustang GT 5.0 (which I will purchase approximately 7.5 hours after I cash in my big time lottery winnings) will be.......an automatic.
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My v8 Pontiac Grand Prix (2008) has the paddle shifters. But even with me just flipping the paddles, I can't shift as well as the automatic does. When I do a full throttle start, the automatic shifts just before the yellow line is hit on the tach...takes just a few seconds to hit yellow line in first gear. I don't think anyone could shift with the paddles better than the automatic does....but I don't know that for sure.

brsims · May 27, 2016

Pumpkin Oval Head said: ↑

My v8 Pontiac Grand Prix (2008) has the paddle shifters. But even with me just flipping the paddles, I can't shift as well as the automatic does. When I do a full throttle start, the automatic shifts just before the yellow line is hit on the tach...takes just a few seconds to hit yellow line in first gear. I don't think anyone could shift with the paddles better than the automatic does....but I don't know that for sure.
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My 04 GTP supercharged V6 has a similar transmission with the paddle shifters on the wheel. Love that car!

Note: burnouts at every stop WILL eventually screw up the transmission
I guess even the upgraded performance tranny will eventually break. Gonna cost me about $1600 to get it rebuilt, too. Le pitiful sigh....

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