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Windows 7, from everything I've read on it, is the OS Vista should have been. They slimmed it down and lowered the system requirements. I for one will get the update as soon as it comes out. All the review writers I've read over the years and come to trust are all saying th same thing, this is the best version of Windows to come out in a long while. MS had to slim it down because those low powered netbooks are becoming all the rage, and the companies that make them are putting them out with Linux on them, because Vista is such a big memory hogging monster. If enough people get exposed to Linux, MS is done for.
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I loaded W7 BETA on my desktop computer at home (after BACKING UP and creating a RESTORE DISK, of course), and I am REAL happy with it. I have had only ONE glitch using IE8 and the "Windows Mail" isn't easy to figure out, but I suspect Microsoft will have this all worked out soon, or when W7 is released.

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I'm trying to install Vista 64bit as we speak and I understand why people dislike it so much. Its a complete nightmare to install. ...snipped...
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I like mine...too a point. But I really wish I had gotten the 32 bit version now.

Mines stable, until I open IE. Then it's toast. Matter of fact, it crashed when I clicked submit on this thread (last post). I didn't think my post made it. Until I read it, after rebooting.

And the only reason I use IE for the moment. Is I have an ad blocking program for it, and not FireFox.

What errors are you getting?

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roadkill439342 said: ↑

I loaded W7 BETA on my desktop computer at home (after BACKING UP and creating a RESTORE DISK, of course), and I am REAL happy with it. I have had only ONE glitch using IE8 and the "Windows Mail" isn't easy to figure out, but I suspect Microsoft will have this all worked out soon, or when W7 is released.
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I read something on this issue, the other week. You might try a google search, and see what pops up.

I haven't put mine online yet. Still playing with it offline.

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there is a linux program, it's not free, but it will let you play most of the latest games on a linux machine. It's called Cedega, i don't know how well it works. http://www.cedega.com/explore/
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Yea, I looked at that in the past, WINElike. Not sure how far its come. Maybe its better now, I will have to investigate that option again. I dont like the subscription/Members thing tho, that certainly blows!
But it is an option for gamers w/ Linux.

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I like mine...too a point. But I really wish I had gotten the 32 bit version now.

Mines stable, until I open IE. Then it's toast. Matter of fact, it crashed when I clicked submit on this thread (last post). I didn't think my post made it. Until I read it, after rebooting.

And the only reason I use IE for the moment. Is I have an ad blocking program for it, and not FireFox.

What errors are you getting?
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The original drive in the system was a SATA 40gb w/XP on it. It will not let you write the Vista 64bit over the 32bit O/S. (I kinda knew this but tried anyways) No biggie, I need to do a clean install. So I found 4 cheap Seagate 150gb 10K rpm hard drives and the board has a raid controller. With four drives you get more bandwidth out of it, not to mention better response time with raid 0. I'm going for performance not fault tolerance.

Now for the install, First time I tried several times. I got a BSOD Page_fault_in_Nonpaged_area. MS technet says the fix for it is in SP1. The disk I got burned didn't have SP1. Ok, got another disk burned with SP1 on it.
Here I go again, Finally it starts loading but stops and BSOD on me again. Back to technet and look up iastorv.sys file. Great, Vista doesn't like my raid configuration. Dug a little deeper and found a 64 bit driver for it and you have to load it right at the beginning of the O/S. Did that but now I continue to get hard drives failures right at completing installation or after, at windows sets up your computer.

So now I'm trying to figure out if its a bad drive OR the driver is not working for this setup. The driver matches up with the controller but I think Vista doesn't like it.

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...snipped.... So now I'm trying to figure out if its a bad drive OR the driver is not working for this setup. The driver matches up with the controller but I think Vista doesn't like it.
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Is this an unsigned driver ??? If so, Vista won't like it at all. And you get a BSOD. Try an install of ReadyDriver Plus for automation...free download.

Or walk it through the boot up, and disable that area. You'll have to do it every time, hence the ReadyDriver.

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danc694u said: ↑

Is this an unsigned driver ??? If so, Vista won't like it at all. And you get a BSOD. Try an install of ReadyDriver Plus for automation...free download.

Or walk it through the boot up, and disable that area. You'll have to do it every time, hence the ReadyDriver.
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Not sure if its signed driver. Its a Intel controller and I would think they are passing a signed driver. I have noticed something else, when you get to the part where do you want to install windows. I create my partition and click format. It doesn't seem like its doing it. I get the hourglass for about 5 seconds and thats it. I'm wondering if its actually formatting the partition I create?

I have a signed driver = 10lb sledgehammer

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rookietrucker said: ↑

Not sure if its signed driver. Its a Intel controller and I would think they are passing a signed driver. I have noticed something else, when you get to the part where do you want to install windows. I create my partition and click format. It doesn't seem like its doing it. I get the hourglass for about 5 seconds and thats it. I'm wondering if its actually formatting the partition I create?

I have a signed driver = 10lb sledgehammer
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LMAO 5 second hourglass. You know better than that. Have you actually owned a sys that would format an HD in 5 minutes? Cuz I know I haven't

You're not the only one having issues with RAID though. I've noted others are as well.Some of the Intel Driver signatures are not being recognized by Vista. Even though they worked fine with XP. That would be a Bill Gates &%$# issue.

Try disabling RAID in the Bios, go to IDE, and see what happens.

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LMAO 5 second hourglass. You know better than that. Have you actually owned a sys that would format an HD in 5 minutes? Cuz I know I haven't

You're not the only one having issues with RAID though. I've noted others are as well.Some of the Intel Driver signatures are not being recognized by Vista. Even though they worked fine with XP. That would be a Bill Gates &%$# issue.

Try disabling RAID in the Bios, go to IDE, and see what happens.
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Its SATA, you can't change it to IDE/PATA. I'm going to try and see if it loads without it being in a raid config. If that doesn't work, I have a thick Vista manual I will beat it with.
I'm thinking because its not formatting, this is probably part of my problem, the other part is its Vista !!! I wish I had a copy of ghost disk.

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I don't have any unsigned drivers. I don't have any hardware that would require them.

I don't use RAID. I have a 74 gig raptor for my boot drive and a 1TB data drive. I'm not running a file server and don't care about data security so RAID is useless.

I'm running all top notch equipment. I have 4 gigs of DDR3 and zero issues. I have never BSOD'd. IE locks up once in a while but Firefox fixes that.

I'm running 32 bit vista on an $800 Gateway I bought for my office. Never a problem.

My other 64bit install is on my Gateway laptop. Again never an issue.

Maybe I'm just lucky

Linux is useless to me. I can't think of a single reason to switch to Linux. I've read scads of posts from Linux users for years over at NvNews.

Apple even more so. Apple is slowly migrating to MS anyway. They have already switched to Intel it's only a matter of time.

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