Windshield Wipers Quit 04 LowMax

Discussion in 'Western Star Forum' started by 04 LowMax, Feb 3, 2013.

  1. 04 LowMax

    04 LowMax Medium Load Member

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    Bill, you can fix this without taking out the motor. If you pull off the electrical junction box on the firewall, the back side of the motor is in to the right a bit. With a 1/2" wrench, you take the nut off the back of the motor, pull the arm off, move the wipers physically to where you want them to park and reinstall it. Done. Here's the hard part. You need a person with very small hands to get in there and take the nut and arm off. They also need to be able to work with a certain amount of pain, when I did it, it felt like my hand was caught in a trap the whole time it was in there. I am unimpressed with the shop that did your work. They should fix the parking issue for free. They should not have given you the truck back without making sure the wipers parked in the right spot. In my opinion, anyway.
     
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  3. underpsi

    underpsi Road Train Member

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    Honestly Bill probably not worth the aggravation to fix it. Save yourself the frustration lol.

    Great find. My stock wiper arms on my 2000 use to have different angles, think the arms I replaced my stocks with when I repainted the truck were both the same angle.
     
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  4. billandlori

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    How To Build a Western Star:

    Step 1: Take the wiper motor and Pivots
    Step 2: Assemble all other parts around it

    Bill
     
  5. 04 LowMax

    04 LowMax Medium Load Member

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    LOL. Yes. "Conversation overheard between 2 engineers in the engineering and design department of Western Star back in 2003-2004"
    Engineer 1: OK, here's how we do this, we have to put in the wiper system first, before anything else.
    Engineer 2: But, isn't that going to make it next to impossible to work on later, when something breaks?
    Engineer 1: Yeah, but we don't give a crap, it won't be us trying to fix it, will it?

    Sounds like you worked on it this weekend, Bill.
     
  6. TonyPDX

    TonyPDX Bobtail Member

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    82.00 Windshield Wipers and Washer
    Wiper Motor Replacement
    100/2 Western Star Workshop Manual, Supplement 11, November 2008
    Replacement
    1. Apply the parking brakes and chock the tires.
    2. Disconnect the batteries at the negative cables.
    WARNING
    Disconnect the batteries before working on the
    wiper motor or linkage. Otherwise, if the driveshaft
    is forced out of the parked position, the
    motor could cycle, possibly resulting in personal
    injury.
    3. From underneath the dash, remove the HVAC
    wye duct, located under the center of the dash. A
    bracket attaches it to the dash, with a bolt, nut,
    and two washers; see Fig. 1.
    4. Disconnect the motor wiring from the electrical
    harness.
    5. Reach behind the mounting plate and remove
    the nut, item 3 in Fig. 2, that attaches the drive
    crank to the wiper motor drive shaft. It may be
    helpful to hold the linkage in place with large
    locking pliers. Remove the drive crank and the
    linkage from the drive shaft. Use care not to
    bend the linkage when pulling the drive crank
    loose from the drive shaft.
    6. Remove the four nuts and lockwashers, items 7
    and 8 in Fig. 2, that hold the mounting plate to
    the brackets. Remove the wiper motor and
    mounting plate.
    7. Remove the three Torx screws that secure the
    wiper motor to the mounting plate. Note the orientation
    of the motor to the plate for installation.
    8. Attach the new wiper motor to the mounting
    plate, using the three Torx screws. Tighten the
    screws 54 lbf·in (610 N·cm).
    9. Place the linkage on the wiper motor drive shaft,
    then start the nut on the shaft, but do not tighten
    it yet.
    10. Position the mounting plate on the brackets, then
    install the four lockwashers and nuts. Tighten the
    nuts 13 to 17 lbf·ft (18 to 23 N·m).
    11. Make sure that the wiper arms are in proper
    parking position, then tighten the nut on the drive
    shaft 15 to 18 lbf·ft (20 to 25 N·m).
    12. Connect the wiper motor wiring to the electrical
    harness.
    13. Install the HVAC wye duct under the dash. Attach
    the duct bracket to the fascia bracket on the
    dash with the bolt, nut, and two washers; see
    Fig. 1.
    14. Connect the batteries.
    15. Remove the chocks.
     
  7. TonyPDX

    TonyPDX Bobtail Member

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    NOTE: The wiper linkage is located inside the
    cab. Some disassembly of the dash components
    and/or HVAC ducting is required for access.
    Driver-Side Wiper Pivot
    Replacement
    1. Apply the parking brakes and chock the tires.
    2. Disconnect the batteries at the negative cables.
    WARNING
    Disconnect the batteries before working on the
    wiper motor or linkage. Otherwise, if the driveshaft
    is forced out of the parked position, the
    motor could cycle, possibly resulting in personal
    injury.
    3. Remove the driver-side wiper arm; see Subject
    110.
    4. Remove the cap and the retaining nut from the
    driver-side pivot drive shaft; see Fig. 1.
    5. Tilt the steering wheel down, or, if the vehicle
    has a non-tilting steering wheel, lower the steering
    column as follows.
    5.1 Remove the wiring clamp from the side of
    the steering column, to access the steering
    column capscrews.
    5.2 While supporting the steering column, remove
    the four 3/8-inch capscrews and
    washers that attach the steering column to
    the steering column bracket. Carefully
    lower the steering column.
    6. Remove the four Phillips screws that secure the
    main dash panel, then swing the panel open; see
    Fig. 2.
    7. Remove the three capscrews that secure the
    ECU mounting plate; see Fig. 3. Rock the
    mounting plate out of the way to gain access to
    the driver-side pivot.
    8. Pop the linkage from the mounting knobs on the
    pivot. The drive link connects to the mounting
    knob on the forward side of the pivot, and the
    drag link connects on the aft side; see Fig. 4.
    Use care not to bend the linkage.
    9. Remove the pivot. Note the position of the inner
    retaining nut on the pivot shaft.
    10. Position the inner retaining nut on the new pivot,
    at the position noted on the old pivot.
    11. Position the new pivot in place.
    12. Press the linkage onto mounting knobs on the
    pivot. The drive link attaches to the forward side
    of the pivot, and the drag link to the aft side.
    13. Position the ECU mounting plate in place, and
    secure it with the three capscrews; see Fig. 3.
    14. Close the main dash panel, and secure it with
    the four Phillips screws; see Fig. 2.
    15. If the steering column was lowered, raise and
    install it as follows.
    15.1 Lift the steering column into place, and
    install the four 3/8-inch capscrews and
    washers that attach the steering column to
    the steering column bracket. Tighten the
    nuts 23 to 29 lbf·ft (31 to 39 N·m).
    15.2 Install the wiring clamp on the side of the
    steering column.
    16. Outside the cab, install the retaining nut on the
    driver-side pivot drive shaft. Tighten the nut 12 to
    15 lbf·ft (16 to 20 N·m), then install the cap on
    the drive shaft; see Fig. 1.
    17. Install the driver-side wiper arm; see Subject
    110.
    18. Connect the batteries, and test the wiper system
    operation.
    19. Remove the chocks.
    Passenger-Side Wiper Pivot
    Replacement
    1. Apply the parking brakes and chock the tires.
    2. Disconnect the batteries at the negative cables.
    WARNING
    Disconnect the batteries before working on the
    wiper motor or linkage. Otherwise, if the driveshaft
    is forced out of the parked position, the
    motor could cycle, possibly resulting in personal
    injury.
    3. Remove the passenger-side wiper arm; see Subject
    110.
    4. Remove the cap and the retaining nut from the
    passenger-side pivot drive shaft; see Fig. 1.
    5. From underneath the dash, remove the HVAC
    wye duct, located under the center of the dash. A
    bracket attaches it to the fascia bracket, with a
    bolt, nut, and two washers; see Fig. 5.
    6. Pop the drag link from the mounting knob on the
    passenger-side pivot; see Fig. 4. To reach the
    passenger-side pivot, lie on the floor under the
    dash with your feet out the passenger-side door,
    and look up behind the HVAC ducting.
    7. Remove the pivot. Note the position of the inner
    retaining nut on the pivot shaft.
    8. Position the inner retaining nut on the new pivot,
    at the position noted on the old pivot.
    9. Position the new pivot in place, with the pivot
    shaft through the hole in the cab.
    10. Snap the drag link onto the mounting knob on
    the pivot.
    11. Install the HVAC wye duct under the dash. Attach
    the duct bracket to the fascia bracket with
    the bolt, nut, and two washers; see Fig. 5.
    Wiper Pivot Replacement
    12. Outside the cab, install the retaining nut on the
    passenger-side pivot drive shaft. Tighten the nut
    12 to 15 lbf·ft (16 to 20 N·m), then install the cap
    on the drive shaft; see Fig. 1.
    13. Install the passenger-side wiper arm; see Subject
    110.
    14. Connect the batteries, and test the wiper system
    operation.
    15. Remove the chocks.
     
  8. Dodgers88

    Dodgers88 Bobtail Member

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    my western star wiper blades stay on and my switch is new, the only way to turn them off is by removing the fuse to the wiper, im guessing the harness is shorted out ?
     
  9. 04 LowMax

    04 LowMax Medium Load Member

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    That or a shorted relay.
     
  10. Lockport

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    It's not "Parking". Known issue. Contact Western Star
     
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