Wisconsin protests

Riddle me this, I remember you saying you're Canadian. In your nation, what social programs are there other than universal health insurance? I know people in nations with more of a socialist path pay a bit more taxes then we do here

 

I’ve been in this situation, I know the environment, and I know the struggle. At least the down south version, it’s a little different in NYC and etc. but I also know the EXCUSES!

remember, fast food, retail and etc is not a career! It’s not a job for a grown person supporting their family. I always say, fast food and retail are for teens, students and those that are older and just need supplemental income / something to do.

everyone else ends up there almost exclusively from bad life decisions, bad financial decisions, embracing a culture of debt and never enough, lack of personal responsibility, not preparing yourself for anything other than the original environment, choosing bad company / friends and family who pull you down into the bucket every time you come up a bit, embracing a culture of violence and impulsive spending via music, tv, etc, getting mad at people who are wealthy but worship tv show hosts and sport players who are rich, it just goes on and on.

BUT. I made it out. And many people I know did the same. You got to change your friends, you got to change / create your goals, you got to change your lifestyle, you got to SACRIFICE now to live like a king later, you have to skip comfort to keep it on the other side.

I have a lot of family who’s accepted poverty, forever. They Have no will to change it. Impulsively spend what money they get, complain about not getting enough free money and then come to you for “help” when they can’t pay their light and loan bills. NO! Nobody asks me anymore. It’s not my job to take care of multiple grown adults who don’t care enough about themselves or kids to buckle up and get their head in the game. Weak desires produce weak results, and most people and these situations only desire what tv and music flashed in front of their face via girls, jewelry, cars. Instead of financial freedom, safe neighborhoods, knowledge of self, common sense, being a jack of trades and knowing how to fix stuff, basically being a true man or women. The tv, the news, the music, the food, all perpetuate this narrative and these conditions. It never stops repeating until those four things are addressed, improved, and until self responsibility is firmly a part of EVERY Americans culture. This is my thoughts on the subject

 

Its systematic to a point. Some black people can legit pull that card. Not all of them can. Many members on here have used the term "thug" and "hoodlum" repeatedly. That's what whites will call an inner city black person. If they dress with clothes from urban name brands, that's how whites will label them. There is a preconceived notion about inner city blacks. Now white people are not going to be intimidated by a black person like myself. I'm articulate, I wear a tshirt and slacks all the time, nothing about me says inner city. My persona more screams geek and I don't look like I could kick nobody's ###. Preconceived notions is one of the reasons some of these attacks happen in my estimation. So if a black person is one that lives in a neighborhood like I mention, they will be looked at as criminals immediately. Now let's say, a white person thinks all black people are from this culture. Then they are less inclined to higher him/her to certain jobs, he may appraise his house differently if he lives in a well to do neighborhood, he will think that he has a nice car only because he sells drugs. You have to understand, many white folks still have not advanced their thinking, and its shown in some of these threads. It's not a knock per se, its simply saying that people get so caught up in their personal beliefs that they don't look at all sides.

 

We do have universal health care. Some provinces charged $1000-$1500ish/year for healthcare but I think they've abolished that now.

We have EI (employment insurance). They deduct a percentage off our paycheque. Deductions stop once you've paid about $850 in a tax year. If you lose your job due to no fault of your own, they will pay something like 55% of your previous wages up to something like $550/week.

There's CPP (Canada Pension Plan). Scam as far as I'm concerned. Most are paying in way more than they'll collect (even if they lived into their 90s). Like EI, it comes off your paycheque until you've paid about $2500 over the course of a tax year.

There's a child tax benefit. No idea how it works. Apparently the government gives parents a hundred bucks or so a month per child or something.


Those are the only ones I know about. There's probably more.

 

A "thug" or "Hoodlum" isn't a race restricted term. They come from all backgrounds. It's based on actions.

 

Agreed. Pretty sure I've heard the British use those terms!

 

I don't even get what you're saying. I don't see what that has to do with giving him permission to do anything. Maybe you would feel better if I called him a criminal upstanding person?

The difference between animals and people is the people have the ability to rationally think and choose and make our choices.

I called him an animal because he obviously does not use rational thought he just acts like an animal would act.

He's angry at the woman so he attacks her. No rational thought involved. He is told by the authorities do not return to bother her again but again with no rational thought he does that. The police say okay buddy we got you you have a warrant against you you're not supposed to be here so let's use your rational thought and realize what you've done we're going to arrest you. So he fights off two police officers resist arrest and gets himself shot. Again with no rational thought. Yes he's an animal.

I never said that the system is perfect. But the answer to your question is because African Americans unfortunately commit a larger portion of the crime. That is the answer and you can statistically check that.

That is a very racist question , I have no idea why you would even pose it because it has nothing to do with the conversation. We are discussing crime and criminality and this is the problem because people conflate Common Sense logical things into racial bias like you just have raised.

And your point makes no sense because there are plenty of African-Americans that do respect the law so again you're trying to conflate statistical facts with racial bias and intertwine them in the same breath. If I give you a statistic that you do not like and then your answer is that I myself am somehow racially biased that makes zero sense and is illogical and quite frankly wrong and is the problem with everything that is happening in America.

Okay well let's assume that you were a driver and let's assume that in the area that you live for whatever reason the driving jobs have dried up and you have less of a chance of getting a job than someone else.

With that in mind, are you now planning to rob a bank? Are you planning to assault a woman? Are you planning on buying a gun so that you can go on a crime spree? Are you planning on getting so high that you're going to drive into the Wendy's drive-thru and when the police go to arrest you for being so high that you fell asleep in the Wendy's drive-thru that you're going to fight them and take their weapon and try to kill them?

A much better way look at it that is not nearly as ridiculous is that in the back community there are very few fathers that raise their children.

The amount of children that do not graduate high school is astronomical. Even the rates of not being able to read and write are high.

Do you think that a person that applies themselves in school and gets an education even if it's only a high school education, but do you think that a person that applies themselves in school that comes from a mother and a father that make sure their child is raised well is more likely to become a violent Criminal or is it more likely that a child with little supervision and little education is more likely to turn into a violent Criminal?

Little opportunity is another one of those catch phrases that the implications are that it's someone else's fault. The implication is that it's okay because it certainly not their fault.

So if little opportunity is the root of all evil why is it that there are people that come here from other countries literally with nothing in their pocket, with little opportunity as you would say, that make themselves very successful?

And again since you're talkin about little opportunity the black lives don't matter movement has gotten hundreds of millions of dollars from celebrities and whoever else. How much is that money goes back into the black community so that there's more opportunity?

You have black athletes that disrespect our national anthem that say yeah yeah man I'm taking a stand I'm making a stand this racism everywhere man man I got to do the right thing.

How many of those people have gotten together and said you know what if we pull together our hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars that we earn as athletes and we go back into these neighborhoods we can help people. How many of them that are screaming loudly about all of this are going back to those communities and doing something about it?

You know you don't see that because it would require them to actually take their time and God forbid use their money to do something about the problem. It's much easier just to scream racism then to get off your rear end and do something.

So they can be armchair activist because they can't put money or resources into the black community because they need a new Mercedes or a new Lamborghini or new wing on their house or because they have to keep the woman there with in diamonds and furs.

And also while we're on the subject of it do any of these black celebrities or black lives don't matter who wants to fry the pigs like bacon, do any of these people take their money and go into the black community and try to solve the black on black crime problem?

Absolutely not. It does not fit the political narrative and you will never see that happen but you will hear of the minuscule chance of a white cop killing a black man and that is all you would hear.

In 2019 9 black men were killed by the police. In 2019 over 7,000 blacks were killed by other blacks.

It is an exponentially astronomically larger problem, but what do you hear about?

You only hear racism because that's the narrative and that's all you will hear and all of those other black lives don't matter even a little bit.

So the end result of all of this is that black on black crime is the real epidemic as it soars in astronomical numbers but that doesn't mean anything. Including the young children that have been killed.

And on top of that are Cities Burning for no reason.

Nothing has been accomplished except for the political agenda.

Very sad.

 

The left didn't have to do anything to start or strengthen the country's division. Let's go to the root of why the country got so divided: Barack Obama got elected twice. Many people in America, and they know who they are, could not get over it the whole time. The Republican side of Congress couldn't get over it the whole. When Mitch McConnell says, "We are going to do everything we can to make him a 1 term president" or something to that effect, that to me sparked the division. Many conservatives could not handle the fact that the black guy won twice. That said, it isnt an overwhelming amount of racists in the country, it seems. What strengthened their platform, it's overwhelming publicity. Racism, sexism, needs no strength from anyone. Its movement where women and people of color are really starting to get over the hump on larger numbers, and you'll have always have someone that cant stand to see forward change

 

Actually you cannot say they commit more crimes. There are 0 statistics that show this, as there is no way to count accurately all the crimes being committed. All we can count are the arrest, convictions, etc.

Now yes, specific minorities have more convictions, arrests, etc. Is that because they commit more crimes, or is it because they are simply targeted more, thus caught more?

I have a feeling it's not so much race, but poverty. It's just certain groups are move prone to poverty, and that's what needs to be fixed, if it's even possible to fix it.

 

Man, the mods sure have given this thread a lot of rope...