But at least you knew what is highlighted above. Now there are several thousand idiots out there & another waste of air who has a radio show that cannot figure out the same.
Work fulltime weekends. Drive Mon-Thurs?
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by camaro68, Dec 17, 2011.
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LoL......... I like running the numbers. I noticed o/o's in my area advertise in the yellow pages. Do most o/o's do that? Do you print business cards to hand out? Having small business connections in your hometown seems like a good way to maybe get a better price per mile and cut deadhead miles.
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Yup. And it is usually between 1am and 4am!
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Come on now, if we would all follow Kevin's advice we would be millionaires
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I have not had XM since '09, but still remember his bit on how it was beneficial to move cheap($1.25 cpm) instead of waiting/looking for the better stuff. Maybe if I had only purchased a Turbo 3000 & air tabs wrapped around everything it would have worked.
Regardless, changed the channel & didn't need to hear anymore from him.
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You may have mild success with a steel body dump truck doing construction work but if your willing to buy an older truck and wrench on it yourself.
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Well, lets see - You did not give enough info.
You said working a regular job 36 hours so I assume you mean three 12 hour shifts; 12 Friday, 12 Saturday, 12 Sunday. Plus run Mon -Thurs... How many hours a day you going to run?
As someone else stated, ALL time working counts toward your 70 hours in EIGHT days, not seven... So you will likely run into a problem with hours even with the best schedule.
F12, S12, S12, M8, T8, W8, T8 = 70 Those eight hour days are TOTAL hours available to WORK - NOT jUsT DRIVE; sitting at a dock waiting to get loaded and not actually driving counts toward your available hours as well. Depending on the types of runs you get into it could be a MAJOR problem.
You will lose a day each week to account for a restart - Figure F12, S12, S12, M11, T11, W11, T-0 = 69 hours; that's tight. May want to figure 10 hours on trucking days. Just remember, that 10 is TOTAL ON CLOCK HOURS EACH DAY. My average day on the road is 13 hours running regional.
Follow me:
Now let me preface this scenario by saying there is NO WAY to predict the many, many things that DO go wrong on the road EVERY DAY and yet you have to plan on them some how.
Scenario:
Monday morning 08:00 you are dispatched a load out of "Your town here" due to be picked up BY 09:00. You pre-trip your truck and head to the shipper at 08:40. It is a five mile drive and you arrive in ten minutes. The shipper checks you in and tells you to pull to the bob tail lot (You are pulling their trailer) - it is scheduled as a hook and drop; it's not, it's a LIVE LOAD and it will take them two hours to load you. Once it is loaded and paper work is done you head down the road. You stop for fuel and are back on the road in 30 minutes after fueling and adding that gallon of oil you discovered the truck needed, but did not have, during your pre-trip (Just a scenario folks, he should have had a spare gallon or two). Your delivery is 400 miles away (8 hours) and is scheduled for delivery at 04:00 local time; it is 11:30.
You drive 3 hours, 150 miles, where you stop to complete an in route inspection. During your stop you use the restroom, get a soda, and check the truck and trailer - ALL IS FINE. You head out again. 30 minutes, 35 miles down the road, you are stopped in a traffic jam due to a cow got hit by grandma greybush, who was talking on her cell phone with her eye doctor trying to get a new pair of glasses as hers are broken and she is legally blind without them (Every driver will tell you this stuff happens daily). The back up is not real severe and only ties you up for about 15 minutes; you are rolling again, but are now in city traffic and traffic is only moving at 35 MPH; that is when it's moving. An hour later you are through the city and are another 40 miles down the road.
Your load is 38,000 lbs and the trailer is one step from antique; it tows as if the brakes are locked up, they are not, and your rig struggles in the hills you are now in. You find you are pulling the hills in 7th and 8th gear, and 6th on really steep sections; you run your flashers due to being below 45 MPH on every hill. Once over the hill you would like to let it roll out a little to make up some time. However, you remember from training that if you clime a hill in 6th, you want to decend the other side in 6th (Unless it has a drastically different grade, you don't care if you go home in one piece, or unless you achieve the level of super trucker in school - What? it could happen...).
It has been 150 miles and 4 hours since your last in route inspection so you stop to check the truck out after passing through the hills. As you are pulling into a rest area you notice smoke coming off a trailer tire.. BANG!! You see shreads of rubber flying everywhere via your right side mirror. Poppa smurf in a Caddy pulls up behind you as you stop inside the rest area. He shows you his damaged grill that has your tire tread sticking out of it. 3 hours later, after DOT and State troopers have finished writing you a love letter and invitation to the ball, road side service hands you a gift receipt for the new tire you just bought, you check the truck out and are off again; 100 miles and two hours away from consignee.
You decide to go straight to delivery point as you will be out of hours at 04:00 and will not be legally allowed to drive. You pull into their lot with 15 minutes left on your 14 hour clock and they turn you away because you are too early; delivery is not a drop window, but a LIVE UNLOAD APPOINTMENT. You explain you are out of hours for the day and you slip the guard a ten spot to let you park out of the way; obviously not a Food Lion, General Mills, or a paper load or they would have sent you away no matter what. You do a post trip and log off duty. 14 hours is what you logged your first of three days. You only planned to work 8, but things did not go right; get a load home to avoid problems.
04:00 comes around and consignee requires you to bring your paperwork AND LOG BOOK to check in. Security recorded the time, date, AND HUB MILES FROM TRAILER... It is part of the Bill Of Lading now (Can't fudge log book now, because DOT will put you Out Of Service if you are stopped as well as give you another present). The dock foreman documents BOL with time you bumped the dock; 04:00 and they tell you to stand at dock door and verify count. Their lumpers are on break and will be back in 15 minutes; they are on time. Hand unload; 2 guys = 3 hours + sort and segregate onto 48 skids. Checker is fast and is done in 15 minutes. 20 minutes later you have your paperwork and are outta there; it is 08:00... NOT SO FAST! you still have to do a 10 hour break. You do not even have hours to drive the 15 minutes to a truck stop... if they had a place for you to park; they don't.
Later that day you find a load that loads in "Just down the road ville" and you pre-trip your truck and head to the truck stop... that's right... you NOW head to the truck stop, you were out of hours long before they unloaded you so you slept in the consignees lot; they had no driver facilities at all so you p!$$ed in that Mt. Dew bottle you drank from yesterday and are REALLY glad you went 10-200 at the rest area while waiting on your tire to be changed. You finish your business, have some food, coffee, a tank of fuel, and you are off. The trailer you pulled down was to be dropped at truck stop and a day cab will take to the shippers other facility. You are bob tailing to pick up a loaded trailer.
You arrive at the shipper; everything goes like clock work and you are hooked, inspected and rolling; it's 20:30. Load delivers the opposite direction of home, but broker / Load board has no other loads in this area and has promised a "Home run" once you drop this load. You run load and pull into consignee 400 miles down the road. You have made your in routes with no problems found. You arrive at 04:00 due to making very good time on the run. You drop the trailer, do the paperwork at the guard shack and head to a truck stop 20 miles up the highway. You shut down for the night, do your post trip and log off duty. You have placed a call to the broker but have not heard back from them yet. You get a shower, a bite to eat, and go to sleep with the phone volume on high so when the broker calls you will not miss it; it is 05:00.
At 05:30 you are woke up by someone beating on your door, she asks if you would like a companion for a little while; No thanks and you go back to sleep. At 05:45 another truck pulls in next to you, the reefer unit is the loudest unit you have heard and the old truck pulling it has a noisy belt that squeals every time the a/c compressor kicks on. 12:00 noon now on Tuesday and no call from broker yet; you call. "I have a run that just came in" they say. It is 50 miles back the other way. The broker says he had to work a deal on the freight bill and it pays $1.20 a mile and you have to supply 2 NEW LOAD BARS to be LEFT with load; $50. You ask if there are any other loads - "NO, this is it." You take load because you need to get home for your other job. you get load bars, top off tanks, and roll to shipper.
When you get to shipper you find out they leave at 16:00 every day; it is 16:30. Broker says "they said they are there till 6." You are 500 miles from home, you have no load to pick up today, and you are burning hours. You drive 21 miles in 30 minutes to get to a truck stop where you find no available parking. There are no spaces, no aprons to park on, the place is packed as it is the only truck stop for 50 miles. You park on the on ramp a quarter mile from the truck stop. You log off duty to save your hours and are sitting behind the wheel talking to the brokers answering service when a knock comes at your door. You roll down the window and a nice you state trooper tells you that you cannot park there. You ask where there is a place to park and he says "Try the truck stop." You log on duty driving and drive another hour to the next truck stop.
3 hours later the broker returns your call and says you can pick it up on Wednesday at 10:00 in the AM. 08:00 rolls around and you pre-trip top off tanks so you can drive straight through once hooked. You drive to shipper. You arrive at 09:30 hoping to hook early and head home. The shipper says the load was booked through another company when you did not show by 16:00 and a driver just pulled out with it - NO LOAD! You call broker for another load as you MUST BE AT YOUR OTHER JOB FRIDAY AM and cannot afford to bobtail home 500+ miles. He has one waiting, it is 20 miles South; your home is NORTH. You haul tail down road to pick up. Load is ready. You hook, pre-trip trailer, and do paperwork. You are out of lot in just under 30 minutes total. You have 550 miles to consignee, it is ALL HILLS between pick up and delivery - good luck.
Many scenarios to choose from here, you run out of hours 100 miles from consignee, you picked up a trailer that has electrical short that you did not know about it till DOT Bear gave you a ticket, consignee refuses load, truck breaks down, BROKER STIFFS YOU ON PAYMENT, Shipper on flat tire load says tires were new and you must have damaged it so they refuse to reimburse you for the tire; $600... the list goes on and on.
I think you are better off to continue working your job that you will retire from rather than risk anything there. Attend school on your days off and after you are licensed try to find a place to drive as a company driver part time. You do not tell us your age or if you already have a CDL. If you are a true newbie... I suggest you give more thought to your plan... it rarely goes smooth out on the road. It does not matter if you are an O/O, company driver, or lease operator. Does not matter if you are dispatched, run through a broker or a load board. The above scenario can happen to any driver; and does. This is not like having a part time job in most cases. And especially not if you are an O/O. You could lose everything you have worked for..Last edited: Dec 24, 2011
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If there is a driver leasing company near you, you can check with them, ask about local work or dedicated, as a casual driver. I worked for Leaseway in Columbus Oh for a year. Left on Tues morn, took a load of Scotts to Omaha, then drop & hook in Lincoln Neb bringing motorcycle wheels back to the Honda plant in Marysville. Was usually back by noon on Thursday. Then I worked for a different leasing co doing shuttle work around Columbus Fri, Sat, Sun. As far as your weekend job, what they don't know, well, you figure it out.
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i'd like to know where it states all compensated time must be flagged. cuz that's going to be hard to do with all those running eobr's.
far as i'm concerned. i'm off duty. i'm away from my truck 80 miles away. and i'm away from the company. if i want to spend my off duty time working for mcdonalds. that's no one's business. cuz i'm OFF DUTY.
i run every week. 3-4,ooo miles. i use up my 70 every week. i'm home on the weekend. it don't cost me anything.
the govt makes us do a 34. i'm doing it at home. not on the road somewhere. not many are open on the weekend. so why do a 34 during the week when everyone IS open.
but like most have mentioned. there's no gaurantee you're going to be home. cuz u just never know what's going to happen to prevent you from coming home.
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On duty time means all time from the time a driver begins to work or is required to be in readiness to work until the time the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work. On duty time shall include:
(9) Performing any compensated work for a person who is not a motor carrier.
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=395.2Skip1965 Thanks this.
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