If you do some research on the Detroit series 60 you will find that these engines are virtually bullet proof. Oh and they usually go around 1.4 million before a rebuild is needed. I'm not saying they don't have problems but I can guarantee that a new emission engine will cost more to maintain and repair if something goes wrong. Anything newer than 2003 except for a glider will have and egr or worse the dpf and def. the whole idea of getting a brand new truck sounds great but, like I said previously the facts don't lie. I have a buddy that just purchased a 2000 Volvo 770 with a series 60 for $10000. He has put about the same into it for other things but no engine work over the course of several months while he is working it. With no mods other than tires, he is doing 7.65 just by driving slow. Now your willing to spend 182k on a truck to make .06 take home?? I spent 40k on mine. It comes down to the numbers. If you can get a truck for 10/50k that's pre emissions that has the potential to do well over 8mpg why on earth would you spend 200k on something that not only you'll get worse mpg but, your cost of doing business will be higher, why wouldn't you choose the route that will make you more money? Have you called some shops or asked your questions on fb? Research shows that a pre emission Detroit series 60 will cost about .08cpm over the course of 1+million including a rebuild. Cat and cummins both p/e are around .08/.12 and some of these guys with dpf/def are around 30cpm. The smartest thing to do is drive an old truck make a pile of money buy a brand new glider and put a series 60 in it.
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Looking at some new gliders I'm still in the $125,000 range before financing. What I am possibly considering is this. Leasing the new truck, after 6 months lease a used truck that I can purchase in 12 months. Use that tractor as my down payment on a 2015 T680 glider.... With a Detroit 60 of course.
What do you think about that
There are some personal reasons why I'm attaching myself to the new truck to start as well as the company I'm leasing to. In 6months I'll be straight. In 1yr and 6 months I'll be an O/O. With my business plan and my new found info on gliders, in 5 years I'll be a small fleet owner.
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Honestly the best way to become on owner operator is to save your money, buy a cheap fuel efficient truck, save even more money then buy a new glider.
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As far as leasing for 6 months and walking away? That's not what I meant. What I was saying is that my situation is pretty different then most.
I read on here posts by others and in other threads of pure ignorance. I love the posts from drivers who reference bad credit with bad business. Not always do they have to do with each other. The reason I have to get a new truck is because the initial incentive is there from the dealer. It will benefit me in the very short term which I need. After 6 months of a 6 year lease agreement I can turn in the new truck and sign a new agreement which gets me out of the old 6 year lease and into another truck lease with different terms.
So I'm taking advantage of the new truck incentives to start, after 6 months and those incentives are exhausted I will then terminate that lease with the option of entering into an older truck.
The older truck can then be purchased after a year and it would have dropped my weekly payments in half.
Also I have no mindset that I can walk away if I fail. I have no mindset of failing as its not an option. Whatever sacrifices I have to make to keep my business in the black will be made.
I'm going to go check out some of those references you mentioned and continue my learning
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I thanked both of you for all your knowledge and suggestions and have never disputed your own business plans or anything you have posted.
I enjoy and heed all of your advise and am looking at many different options and have not signed anything as of this post.
As far as incentives go from the new deeler? They are offering around $5000 cash paid to me from day one of the lease agreement with the availability of terminating that lease after 6 months with the explicit consent of me having to sign another with the same leasee on any truck of my choosing.
Now I understand that your company offers the gliders and I have looked into them as well as your company and have not ruled them out as a potential employer/business partner but like I said, I am looking into many options and going to make the best decision I can.
I have no dreams of grandeur when it comes to any company or leasee unless their name was identical to mine but then it would be my company and my leases I'd be writing myself.
I understand and believe neither of you are recruiters and that both of you have nothing but my best interests in mind as well as for yourself.
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