would I get a ticket?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Chewy352, Jun 29, 2015.

  1. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    Chewy, you need to learn how to load to where the drives and trailer are equal.
    Take you empty axle weights and write them down. Of course empty, the trailer axles will weigh less than the drives. Now find the center of the trailer (measure the distance between the hubs on the trailer axles, find the center, mark, then measure from that mark to the kingpin. Mark the halfway point. A little simple math, and you will always be able to center every load.
     
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  3. Chewy352

    Chewy352 Road Train Member

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    Reweigh after sliding 5th wheel
    11400 steer
    24980 drives
    40580 tandems

    I slid the 5th wheel 3 holes so that moved about 133lbs per whole. Not a whole lot but it puts me closer to legal and less stones I have to move if need be. Learning a lot from this load. Gunna pay alot more attention to the loader and ask more questions on the weights.
     
  4. Chewy352

    Chewy352 Road Train Member

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    Am I wanting to mark the halfway point between my kingpin and the rear axle or the kingpin and center of tandems?
     
  5. Long FLD

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    Are you pulling a 48ft spread? Or a CA legal 53ft? I'm picturing an overhang on the rear and they have you loaded to the back to miss the weight that much.
     
  6. TripleSix

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    Center of tandems or the center of the spread. It's always done the same way. It wouldn't be the same distance with a spread and a tandem, but you always measure the same: find the center of the trailer axles, and then measure from that point to the kingpin and then the middle of that point is the center of the trailer for loading purposes.
     
  7. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    Forget about the front drive axle and the rear trailer axle. The load really needs to be centered between the rear drive axle and the front trailer axle. At least in my experience, loading behind the front trailer axle acts as a fulcrum, decreasing weight on the drives as you load more on the rear. Easiest way to measure? Stake pockets on most trailers are 2' apart...so just count 'em up and mark the center. Yes, you're marking in front of the mid-point on the trailer.

    Now if the load is going to have you at/near gross, you MAY want to move the load back a LITTLE so that you don't exceed 34K on the drives...but the axles should still be pretty close when all is said & done.

    I've corrected a few loaders who thought the mid point was the balance point which would evenly distribute the weight. I loaded at a place last week where I explained how I wanted it, and he said "I do a pretty good job keeping the loads balanced."

    Pulled around onto the scale and I was 39K on the trailer...and I made him move it around to where I'd told him to put it in the first place.

    A lot of these guys THINK they are doing a great job because everybody runs the load as long as it's LEGAL. I'd prefer it to be RIGHT.
     
  8. HorseShoe

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    I am a regular visitor to the coops. I sure as hell wouldnt tell you I know I'm overweight or that my boss told me to do it...But then again I don't run the truck hating area they call the North East
     
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  9. HorseShoe

    HorseShoe Road Train Member

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    Maybe if your overweight on an axel they'll tell you to get legal before moving. But if you're overgross they'll let you run it with a ticket. NO POINTS.

    A company will not be shutdown because of overweight violations.........
     
  10. truckon

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    Companies safety ratings take a hit every time they are pulled into a scale? Or given an overweight ticket?

    Got a link to back these claims up?
     
  11. HorseShoe

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    No he dont. Scalemaster is used to talking nonsense and no one challenging him cause theres 3 troopers sitting next to him
     
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  12. Long FLD

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    Overweight tickets have nothing to do with a company's safety rating.
     
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